[cyberslave]

It doesn't take money to crack this one just good old FReeper key work!

Let's review a few things and get to work!

Exhibit 1 The Alleged Obama Birth Certificate:

Unfortunately I can't enlarge this image but it you go to the link you can enlarge it: www.latimes/obama-birth.

The certificate describes Obama's mother as being "caucasian" and his father as being "African". It is dated August 8, 1961 with a date of birth of August 4, 1961 for Baby Barrack. Now the term "African" is used instead of "Negro" which would've been the correct description for race on the certificate to describe his father's race. African is a modern politically correct term and I doubt that even in today's PC world it would actually appear on a birth certificate even in the State of Hawaii. A birth certificate is not just a legal document it is a medical document as well and therefore it must be accurate in a medical sense. Therefore, I am highly incredulous about this alleged document because of this. Also the document lacks additional information which appears on all birth certificates such as the baby's weight, height, hair and eye color and race. In additon, a birth certificate usually contains the address of both the mother and the father, their marital status, how long they've been in residence, and their occupations. This document contains none of that.

Do any FReepers have a Hawaii birth certificate, either original or a copy, to compare this one to?

It would be interesting to see someone's certificate from 1961. It would also be interesting if that person could go to the Hawaii Dept. of Health and get a copy of their birth certificate so that it could be compared to the Obama document.

[Shadraq]

Now the term "African" is used instead of "Negro" which would've been the correct description for race on the certificate to describe his father's race.

On any public record what is recorded is what the person declared. So if BO's father or mother said "African" that is what is recorded.

BO's birth certificate will be in the Honolulu County Records. As I previously stated due to privacy laws no one is going to be able to get a copy of his birth certificate except for BO.

But the Divorce Records are not included in the privacy laws and you should be able to find a copy and possibly the entire divorce file of BO's mother, Ann Dunham and BO Sr., in the Honolulu County Vital Records office. If there was a minor child, he/she has to be mentioned in the Divorce File and birth should be documented and included in the Divorce File. This is where I would start if researching BO's family history.

[janereinheimer]

My children were bornin 1961 and 1963 and had their little footprints on their birth certificates.

[Larry - Moe and Curly]

The Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth posted on Obama’s website looks like the “birth certificate” we got when we adopted our daughter in Hawaii. She was born in South Korea. We were able to get this Certificate of Live Birth and get her naturalized at age 3-1/2 months, a few days after the adoption.

If Obama actually has one of these Certificates of Live Birth, it probably means he was born outside the US. To get this he either had to show his original birth certificate and adoption decree from a country where the US recognizes their adoptions or he was born outside the US and adopted in Hawaii. In both cases he would need a Naturalization Certificate to obtain a US passport. It would not necessarily authorize him to be considered a natural-born US citizen and eligible to be President, and would probably preclude it.

Depending on his mother’s status at the time, he may or may not be considered a natural-born US citizen - that is out of my area of expertise.

[HighlyOpinionated]

AFRICAN would have been NEGRO in 1961, wouldn’t it? OR, since officially Barack Hussein Obama SENIOR is listed in Kenya as “ARAB” even though that’s not a race, technically, had Sr been there, he MIGHT have told them “ARAB” instead of Negro. Because even in Africa, Muslims with Muslim Names are not considered “Negro” Africans, even today.

There is SO much that needs to be explained and Ayers/Obama didn’t do the best job when writing his books.

A COLB is not a birth certificate as such. My children have them and to get the official birth certificate from Delaware, I or they have to request it and pay for it. The BC would have all the pertinent information. THAT is why we want a BIRTH CERTIFICATE and not some fabricated Certificate of Live Birth (COLB).