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76% of CA likely voters and 60% of self-described pro-choice voters want abortion restrictions
http://www.christiannewswire.com ^ | OCT 22, 2008 | www.kofc.org

Posted on 10/22/2008 1:06:56 PM PDT by Maelstorm

Contact: Patrick Korten, 203-752-4474; Andrew Walther 818-522-2005; both with Knights of Columbus

NEW HAVEN, Conn., October 22 /Christian Newswire/ -- A newly released survey of California voters shows support for Proposition 4 - a proposed law that requires a waiting period and parental notification before a girl under 18 is allowed to have an abortion. The initiative holds a 19 percentage point lead among likely voters, 52% to 33%. The survey was conducted for the Knights of Columbus by the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion between September 28 and October 5, 2008.

The survey shows that Proposition 4 has majority support among women (55% to 31%), Latinos (61% to 27%), those who are married (59% to 25%) and those age 45 or older (55% to 28%). The initiative also leads among men (49% to 34%). Those opposed include likely voters 18 to 29 years old (52% to 41%).

The poll also shows that Proposition 4 leads by double digits in every region of California except the Bay Area, where a plurality of 48% is opposed.

Among California likely voters, 75% say that parents or legal guardians have the right to know if their underage daughter is seeking an abortion.

The survey also found that 76% of likely California voters favor significant restrictions on abortion, including 47% who believe abortion should be restricted to cases of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother, or should never be permitted. Among key groups, 84% of Catholic likely voters favor significant restrictions. Sharing this view are 85% of Latino likely voters, including 61% who would limit abortion to cases of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother or believe it should never be permitted.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: abortion; calinitiatives; obama; parentalnotification; prop4
Looks like something is happening in California. Proposition 8 is cruising to what appears to be clear passage, Proposition 4 also looks to be headed that way too. I thought conservatism was dead.hmmm
1 posted on 10/22/2008 1:06:56 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm

Even most pro-choice people still want abortions after “viability outside the womb is possible” to be banned....if you ask ‘em specifically about 3rd trimester abortins.

Parental notification before ANY medical procedure is a no-brainer.


2 posted on 10/22/2008 1:12:05 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (1/27th Infantry Wolfhounds...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: Maelstorm

Wonderful News!


3 posted on 10/22/2008 1:17:52 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Maelstorm

I find these poll results somewhat difficult to believe given the drubbing that this Prop has taken the last two times it was on the ballot (’05 and ‘06). With any luck, Props 4 and 8 will be a one-two punch for many conservative voters, but I think that 8 has a much better chance than 4 given the historical precedents.


4 posted on 10/22/2008 1:17:58 PM PDT by UncleDick (Sola fide)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

You are absolutely correct. There has never been support for the blood lust promoted by NARAL and NOW in America. The idea of young girls being spirited off in the dark for abortions without the knowledge of their parents is preposterous. This failed the last time when it was a much closer race. I think the Prop 8 push is going to push this over the top too.


5 posted on 10/22/2008 1:17:58 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: Maelstorm

Here is the poll:
http://www.kofc.org/un/cmf/resources/proposition4.pdf

They also did one on Prop 8, re same-sex-marriage
http://www.kofc.org/un/cmf/resources/proposition8.pdf


6 posted on 10/22/2008 1:18:31 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Maelstorm
It will pass. The same voters who give Prop. 8 its lead also back Prop. 4.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 10/22/2008 1:20:50 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Maelstorm
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8 posted on 10/22/2008 1:22:54 PM PDT by mlizzy
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To: Maelstorm

Even most “pro-choicers” won’t admit that they support partial birth or outright infanticide,

but they still wouldn’t vote that way.

In fact, most of them that I’ve talked to deny that any democrat pol supports those things either.


9 posted on 10/22/2008 1:23:28 PM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: UncleDick
Those were years when liberals turned out enmasse to vote down Arnold's reforms in the special election (2005) and again for the Democrats wins in 2006. Yet a parental notification measure both times on the ballot lost only narrowly. The third time should be a charm.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

10 posted on 10/22/2008 1:23:39 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: calcowgirl
There's a cross current of support. Obama still looks safe in California but a strong conservative turnout will make the difference in many down ticket races. This will help with the GOP's state legislative and congressional standings.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 10/22/2008 1:26:01 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: MrB
I do support abortion if the life of the mother is endangered. So by that defintion, I am pro-choice, too. But I do not support abortion on demand and neither do the American people. Most of us also back parental consent/notification laws.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

12 posted on 10/22/2008 1:36:35 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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I do support abortion if the life of the mother is endangered.

Well, then, in these .0001% of the abortion cases, I'm with you as well.

But, there is no way someone can tell me that the LIFE of the mother will be saved by a PBA that wouldn't be saved by a full delivery.

13 posted on 10/22/2008 1:40:21 PM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: goldstategop
I do support abortion if the life of the mother is endangered. So by that defintion, I am pro-choice, too. But I do not support abortion on demand and neither do the American people. Most of us also back parental consent/notification laws.

I support abortion if the life of the mother is endangered, the person was raped, molested etc, or the mother is a young child (10 - 13) range ... Abortion is NOT acceptable as everyday birth control.

A large majority of people think like me as well. More and more people feel abortion as everyday birth control is wrong, and that number of people continues to grow.

Allowing kids a medical procedure such as abortion without parental consent is absurd, not to mention it should be illegal and not even considered for a poplar vote. Talk about no rights as a parent. Give me a break.

It seems certain liberal ideas (that are accepted in a limited form) get pushed further and further to the extreme ... almost always to the point of a backlash.

14 posted on 10/22/2008 2:03:41 PM PDT by 08bil98z24 (McCain/Palin 08. Stop Osama Obama and Bin Biden now!)
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Allowing kids a medical procedure such as abortion without parental consent is absurd, not to mention it should be illegal and not even considered for a poplar vote. Talk about no rights as a parent. Give me a break.

That's happening now. Funny, parental consent is required to administer your underage child medication at school, yet not required for an abortion clinic--for performing an invasive surgical procedure as suction abortion? This is madness...

Then if something terrible happens, the parents are notified after their daughter is fighting for her life in the hospital...and Planned Parenthood doesn't pay for that insurance bill.

They should be sued right out of existence, but they get way too much tax money.

Defund it!

15 posted on 10/22/2008 3:13:21 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Watch, pray, and work. This election will separate the sheep from the goats.)
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Yep. Its illegal for a doctor or a nurse to give an underage girl aspirin without parental permission. Yet these same kids are judged mature enough to have life threatening surgery without the parents knowing about it. That needs to be fixed.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

16 posted on 10/22/2008 4:07:15 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Yet these same kids are judged mature enough to have life threatening surgery without the parents knowing about it. That needs to be fixed.

Unfortunately, parental notification laws keep getting voted down in Congress, thanks to Nancy and her gang of baby-killing thugs. Hope the voters boot them out this year. They've had their chance--two years of "change." Now our economy is in the tank and people have lost big money. Yep, it's change we can believe in! /sarc

17 posted on 10/22/2008 4:51:54 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Watch, pray, and work. This election will separate the sheep from the goats.)
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To: goldstategop

I like how a slightly higher percentage of women support it than men. Ann Coulter has said before that despite what the feminists say, men (particularly those age 18-30) are more supportive of abortion rights than women. Of course, if you think about it, it does make sense why young men would be more supportive of abortion: An easy way out of responsibility.


18 posted on 10/22/2008 8:26:15 PM PDT by hout8475
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