Posted on 10/21/2008 1:12:04 PM PDT by lil'bit
API has an ongoing discussion with FOX NEWS on the best way forward in the process of releasing Michelle Obama tapes to the American people.
bttt for further research
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Can we just stop with this garbage? I’m tired of reading of these imminent releases. There is nothing there. This “legal” excuse is BS.
Kelly is her maiden name...she married and became Kendall for a while...went back to Kelly long before she married Douglas Brunt, March of this year. Retains Kelly as her surname.
Thanks for the ping...been AFK for awhile- just catching up now...
Sealed by the court.
I was adopted by my step-father. I feel weird saying stepfather cuz he was the only father I knew.
My sisters and brother have such pretty Birth Certificates issued by the State of Virginia.
I have a Certificate of Live Birth. Period [Name rank & Serial No., LOL]
Even if I wanted to get a copy of my original, I could not. It matters not that I know all of the details (birth father, etc) Virginia does not unseal those documents easily.
Now if I wanted to (and I do not) change my birth name back to my original I could do so. But the Birth Certificate stays sealed.
So, on a genealogy check, how many COB’s would come up? One, or two ... and in which name(s)?
If the records are taken from actual county or state files, the only COB that would come up would be the legal name as the original is sealed.
In Obama’s case, [for discussion] if he was adopted in Hawaii, the only certificate to come up would be the one with the Soetoro name (BTW it is spelled Sutoro in the online records) if Hawaii made them available.
However, just because his original BC is sealed, it does not wipe out the marriage. Anne and Obama’s marriage and divorce should be a matter of PUBLIC record if they were married and divorced in Hawaii (or any state). It might not be online, but a trip to the courthouse would do the trick.
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When looking at genealogy records online you have to consider the source and the documentation.
Technically I would not be listed as a child of my father because I was adopted by him as opposed to my siblings. (That rule is not always followed)
But I am listed with my sibs as children of my mother because I am her natural child.
Now to apply that to Stanely Ann:
if it was a Dunham family tree it would read
Stanley Ann Dunham
m Barack Obama Sr
1. Living Obama (Jr)
m. Lolo Sutoro
1. Living Surtoro (f)
Stanley Ann Dunham
m Barack Obama Sr
1. Living Obama
m. Lolo Sutoro
1. Living Surtoro (f)
2. Living Sutoro
It would be interpreted as Stanely Ann Dunham having 3 children
1 by Obama and 2 by Sutoro
lolz wth
You have mail and FRmail!
For gosh sakes either post the tapes or shut up about it API.
Here here.
That's it? Who cares if he was adopted in Indonesia? What does this have to do with anything? He's still an American citizen, as long as he was born in Hawaii.
It has only been in the last ten years that America recognized dual citizenship, if he became an Indonesia citizen prior to that say like in 1965 or when ever he moved there and his adopted father made him an Indonesian citizen, he lost his natural born status because he became the citizen of another country.
In that case even if he went though the process to re-establish his US citizenship at 18 (and there are no records of him doing so according to the rules of the State department) he would only be a naturalized citizen and eligible for the presidency.
not eligible for the presidency.
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