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A Closer Look At The Birth Certificate
The Bulletin ^ | 10/21/08 | John Connely

Posted on 10/21/2008 9:14:12 AM PDT by pissant

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To: tirednvirginia
If Obama’s mother was living in Kenya before he was born. That may lead to a problem with one of the elements in the Constitution.
121 posted on 10/21/2008 10:48:09 AM PDT by teacherbarbie
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To: tirednvirginia

Doesn’t matter where his mother lived before his birth.

What matters is where she lived after his birth on her 18th birthday.

“Pursuant to American citizenship laws, you are a U.S. citizen if ALL of the following are true:

* (a) One of your parents was a U.S. citizen when you were born;
* (b) Your citizen parent lived at least 5 years in the United States before you were born; and
* (c) At least 2 of these 5 years in the United States were after your citizen parent’s 14th birthday.”


122 posted on 10/21/2008 10:48:33 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Citizen Blade

Then Obama should deliver his Birth Certificate to Phil Berg and the issue would be over in a NY minute.


123 posted on 10/21/2008 10:52:54 AM PDT by ncfool (Obama stands for The New United Socialist Sta'te or "TNUSSA")
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To: Poincare

We now know a woman can just give information about the father on the birth certificate, and who knows what language they used in Hawaii for black in 1961.


124 posted on 10/21/2008 10:53:38 AM PDT by teacherbarbie
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To: motoman

It probably is the same 10.00 fee with certification!


125 posted on 10/21/2008 10:54:49 AM PDT by ncfool (Obama stands for The New United Socialist Sta'te or "TNUSSA")
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To: tirednvirginia
Scratch the first line.

Doesn’t matter where his mother lived before his birth.

That part does matter. But pay attention to the requirements of citizenship.

She had to have lived in the U.S. for 2 years before his birth, but after her 14th birthday.

Near as I can tell, she spent most of her early years outside the country..

I could be wrong and I'm sure other Freepers probably have the correct information.
126 posted on 10/21/2008 10:55:23 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: pissant
Take a look at the latest from:

www.obamacrimes.com

127 posted on 10/21/2008 10:56:21 AM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: teacherbarbie

Not to be racist. I bet the term used was “Negro”


128 posted on 10/21/2008 10:56:29 AM PDT by ncfool (Obama stands for The New United Socialist Sta'te or "TNUSSA")
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

How about someone in Hawaii going down to the newspaper and check for “Born this week” at the hospital listed. Back in the 1960’s every paper had them. If his name shows up, or more likely doesn’t show, it would throw a lot more information into the mix.


129 posted on 10/21/2008 10:58:05 AM PDT by DakoKid
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To: ncfool

Well, they are public records.
No reason for them to be kept secret.
Unless they don’t possess it because he wasn’t born in Hawaii.


130 posted on 10/21/2008 11:02:35 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Kill the revenue stream - do not give hits to Leftist supporting websites)
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To: DakoKid

Did you read post 74?


131 posted on 10/21/2008 11:05:44 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Bigh4u2

To be proper, the correct race would have been “Negro”, especially at that time. However, given the diversity of ethnic backgrounds here in Hawaii, who knows what the usual procedure in 1961 was. I am sure that there were plenty of hapa-haoles having children at that time, so how would a half-caucasian, half-japanese parent usually be described?

Also, if Obama’s father was part Arab, as rumored(?), wouldn’t “African” have been more appropriate? After all, North Africans are Arabs or some similar ethnicity.

In any case, the use of “African” to describe his father still seems strange.


132 posted on 10/21/2008 11:12:50 AM PDT by KAUAIBOUND (Hawaii - paradise infested with left-wing cockroaches and centipedes)
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To: pissant
Then give us some facts and truth, because so far you are blowing nothing but foul smoke, sally.

You are the one trying to disprove that Obama was born in Hawaii. We've seen his birth certificate, which proves he was born there. So, the onus is on you to make a case that he was born elsewhere.

133 posted on 10/21/2008 11:16:17 AM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Go Gordon
Wrong. They argue that if he was a citizen of Indonesia, which many believe he was at one point, he had to have relinguished his US citizenship because INDONESIA didn't recognize dual citizenship at that time.

I have no idea what Indonesian law says on this issue. However, unless someone can show evidence that Obama renounced his US citizenship, his status under Indonesian law is completely irrelevant.

134 posted on 10/21/2008 11:18:13 AM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Citizen Blade

You’ve seen his birth certificate? Wow. Contact Phil Berg, and he’ll drop his lawsuit.

The COLB, however is photoshopped.


135 posted on 10/21/2008 11:19:47 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ncfool
I know the term, I am African America. Negro is a race-that’s what I was referring to. Not en vogue lingo that we use today.
Also it does not matter if Obama Sr.’s tribe was called themselves Arab either.
136 posted on 10/21/2008 11:21:19 AM PDT by teacherbarbie
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To: KAUAIBOUND

North Africans are not Arabs. If they are not black they are mixed from colonization.


137 posted on 10/21/2008 11:26:07 AM PDT by teacherbarbie
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To: Citizen Blade

Not if he travelled on an Indonesian passport. Then it would be a big issue. Especially if it was to Pakistan. What name was the passport issued in Obama or Sortoro?

Heck we know more about Joe the Plumber then we do Obama?

Americans have a right to know.

Citizen you sound like a spy here among the Freepers!


138 posted on 10/21/2008 11:27:09 AM PDT by ncfool (Obama stands for The New United Socialist Sta'te or "TNUSSA")
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To: Citizen Blade
However, unless someone can show evidence that Obama renounced his US citizenship, his status under Indonesian law is completely irrelevant.

I believe he had an Indonesian passport, which you can't get without being a citizen of Indonesia.

139 posted on 10/21/2008 11:27:45 AM PDT by Go Gordon
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To: KAUAIBOUND

In the 60’s ‘black’ or ‘negro’ would have been the most widely used description for race.

No one would put ‘American’ as ‘Race’ for an American citizen anymore than they would put ‘African’ for a citizen of an African country.

Obama’s father being from Africa doesn’t mean he is ‘African’.

His ‘race’ would probably depend upon which part of Africa he was from.

If he came from an Arab nation, then ‘Arab’ would probably be the correct word.

What ‘race’ is a person from Kenya?

Sure isn’t ‘African’.

“In any case, the use of “African” to describe his father still seems strange.”

I agree.


140 posted on 10/21/2008 11:28:09 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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