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Revealed: The macabre diaries of death penned by Britain's last hangman.
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 20th October 2008 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 10/20/2008 8:40:25 AM PDT by PotatoHeadMick

The fascinating diaries of death penned by Britain's last hangman have been revealed today.

Harry Allen, who died aged 81 in 1992, kept a log of prisoners who were executed at prisons in London, Manchester and Leeds.

In his journal, he recorded details of each prisoner's age, weight, height and worked out how long the rope needed to be to ensure a swift death.

He referred to one hanging with a hindsight about the rope saying: 'Very good job but should have had another two or three inches - very strong.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; hangman; harryallen
Britain abolished the death penalty in the mid-1960's, needless to say the murder rate in Britain has sky-rocketed since then. Reading this article is a glimpse into a different British society which seemed to vanish overnight.
1 posted on 10/20/2008 8:40:25 AM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: PotatoHeadMick

Sounds like a professional.


2 posted on 10/20/2008 8:44:00 AM PDT by BGHater (The GOP, the new DNC.)
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To: BGHater
You got to be kidding me.

Executioner: Harry Allen was Britain's last hangman, officiating between 1941 and 1964. He died aged 81 in 1992

3 posted on 10/20/2008 8:45:50 AM PDT by BGHater (The GOP, the new DNC.)
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To: BGHater

“I couldn’t possibly fitanother one in today, we’re all backed up and as you can see, this one’s a doozy.” - Igor
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4 posted on 10/20/2008 8:52:31 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: PotatoHeadMick
For some death came quickly. Walter Cross, 21, who had murdered a 55-year-old man in Barking, Essex, was dead within six seconds.

But 22-year-old Peter Griffiths, who had raped and murdered a three-year-old girl whom he had snatched from her cot at the Queen's Park Hospital, Blackburn, was still alive 30 seconds after the trap door opened.

Whoopsie!

Funny how these things work out, isn't it?

5 posted on 10/20/2008 8:55:47 AM PDT by gridlock (Anybody who advocates robbing Peter to pay Paul can count on the enthusiastic support of Paul.)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

Nice handwriting when he was younger


6 posted on 10/20/2008 9:04:48 AM PDT by nuconvert (Obama - Preferred by 4 out of 5 Dictators & Terrorists// Rove>Biden is a Big,Blowhard Dufus)
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To: PotatoHeadMick
He was also assisted in the wrongful execution in 1953 of Derek Bentley, who was convicted of murdering a policeman after witnesses said he told the killer: 'Let him have it Chris.'

I recall a movie about this case

7 posted on 10/20/2008 9:05:54 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: PotatoHeadMick

A class act from a time when the English were considered cultured and Americans uncouth. A 180 turn on the English and we Americans will stay uncouth, thank you very much.


8 posted on 10/20/2008 9:12:04 AM PDT by truemiester ((If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years))
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To: JZelle
the wrongful execution in 1953 of Derek Bentley

Very much a matter of opinion. The facts were known at the time, and the justice system decided that calling out for his partner to shoot the policeman was enough to warrant the death penalty for Derek. We can look back and say we disagree, but I think it goes too far to declare is a "wrongful execution".

On the other hand, Tim Evans was hanged for a murder committed by John Christie. We now know that Evans was innocent and so it seems fair to declare that case a "wrongful execution".

10 posted on 10/20/2008 9:40:15 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: PotatoHeadMick

We have people with last names like Baker, Carter, Cook, Mason, Sawyer, etc to signify their profession. Why are there no people with last names like Hangman, Chopper, Torturer, Joker, Clown, etc? Just asking.


11 posted on 10/20/2008 1:32:25 PM PDT by driftless2
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For the same reason that they wore masks when performing public executions. They didn’t want to be identified so that the associates of their ‘clients’ could take revenge on them...


12 posted on 10/24/2008 10:52:16 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: PotatoHeadMick

And yet the Murder Rate is still considerably lower than that of the US, which still practices the death penalty. Despite every other major crime rate being higher than the US....

FWIW, I do support the death penalty in theory. I’m sceptical at it’s detterent effect, because murder isn’t generally the kind of thing you consider the consequences of when you are committing it. It does however, give justice to the victim and their families...


13 posted on 10/24/2008 10:55:31 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: driftless2

I have met people with the last names, Coward, Craven, Goad and Fuhl, (which I thought was probably pronounced fool, but he claimed was pronounced like fuel.


14 posted on 10/24/2008 11:21:53 AM PDT by Busywhiskers ("Shave off the whiskers of unnecessary thought." Occams Razor)
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To: Busywhiskers

Coward comes from ‘cow herd’ (as in sheep herd, “Shepherd”), Craven I’d imagine has nothing to do with the adjective more likely relates to a trade (”carving”?) or a place, never heard of the other two and I’d imagine the last is German.


15 posted on 10/24/2008 5:54:39 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: PotatoHeadMick

“Britain abolished the death penalty in the mid-1960’s, needless to say the murder rate in Britain has sky-rocketed since then.”

Yeah, its nearly as high as that of Washington DC now.


16 posted on 10/29/2008 9:41:54 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

I’m with you. In theory I agree with it, in practice, I dont think it will work - in the sense that I dont think it will have much of a deterrent effect. In fact, there are folk around sick enough to murder just so they can be part of the “celebrity culture” the world seems to have bought into.

I agree most murders are probably done in the “heat of the moment”, and the consequences are not considered. Deliberate pre-meditated murder, yes that would be deterred.


17 posted on 10/29/2008 9:49:18 AM PDT by Vanders9
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