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1 posted on 10/19/2008 7:50:35 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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If Bradley lost by 90,000+ votes out of 8 million, isn’t it safe to say that there were at least that many racists who voted against him?


2 posted on 10/19/2008 7:53:51 PM PDT by nufsed
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To: BurbankKarl

Barry Soetoro is an empty suit with a whole wagonload of race cards.


3 posted on 10/19/2008 7:54:18 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("I'm just going to spread YOUR wealth around." - Barack HUSSEIN Obama a.k.a. Barry Soetoro)
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Even if the Bradley Effect was real, it occurred 26 years ago when race was a larger issue and some were apt to more racist than they are today.


4 posted on 10/19/2008 7:55:57 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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Bradley could've lost because of this:

For Liberty's Sake

5 posted on 10/19/2008 7:56:29 PM PDT by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh Is "The Passion" of Conservatism And Pretty Good At That Radio Thingy)
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The writer is incorrect on his definition of Bradley Effect. They lie to pollsters because they dont want to be accused on being prejudiced, not because of their prejudice.

And this is from an article linked in another thread here on the WVa campaign:

“Casey, the Democratic state chairman, alleges...
“John McCain is confident that ignorant, redneck racists are not going to vote for Barack Obama, because Barack Obama is black,” said Casey.


6 posted on 10/19/2008 7:58:11 PM PDT by Canedawg (Over? OVER? Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!)
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I don’t agree with the Wall Street Journal — we lived in Yucaipa and several Dem neighbors didn’t like Bradley and wouldn’t vote for a black Democrat liberal and they were registered Democrats. They were outspoken about it. I asked one of them if Bradley were white, would you vote for him and he absolutely. He didn’t care he was liberal.

I didn’t vote for Bradley because he was was a Democrat liberal. As for Governor Moonbeam who was running for Senate, I wouldn’t vote for him for dog catcher.


7 posted on 10/19/2008 7:59:31 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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First, I did an extensive analysis of this a few days ago. The coincidence is too high-—it’s not just Bradley. It’s Dinkins, who was ahead 6-8 and barely won; it’s Harold Washington who was polling almost 10 up and barely won; it’s Wilder who was 8 up and barely won; it’s Harvey Gantt who was 6 up and lost by 6; it’s Ken Blackwell who was 8 to 14 down . . . and lost by 25. Indeed, the ONLY races where I haven’t seen this to be a factor is when it’s a REPUBLICAN governor, and then Lynn Swann lost by almost exactly the polled amount-—but he was a sports superstar; and Michael Steele had about a 2% variation from polling. Harold Ford also lost by more than the polled amount, I think (don’t quote me).


8 posted on 10/19/2008 8:00:01 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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Coming “Palin Effect?”


9 posted on 10/19/2008 8:01:07 PM PDT by hamboy
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I didn’t follow that campaign but I’ve heard that the “Bradley effect” is bogus — that what happened was media polls under-representing R. districts such as rural areas etc.

The Atty General’s race (white vs. white) showed virtually the same difference between public polls and election day. Anyone know for sure?

That’s why the R. private polling showed a sizable discrepancy with the MSM polling all along.

Gee, maybe the MSM was trying to discourage R. turnout by making it seem like a lost cause for Rs.


13 posted on 10/19/2008 8:02:53 PM PDT by Enchante (America: has Obama told you about his "New Party" that sought to spread SOCIALISM??)
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the media will have a ready answer for the result: racism

Who the hell cares!

17 posted on 10/19/2008 8:18:25 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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Mmmmm. Voters don't like politicians that try to take their guns away while the crime rate continues to rise. Who'd a thunk?
18 posted on 10/19/2008 8:21:14 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( God doesn't wear a wristwatch.)
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Tom Bradley was a Liberal’s Liberal. He was Left as “H”.

The argument however about race is valid when one reflects upon the Leftist bent of the Candidate as racist as well.

Tom Bradley was not a man of all the people.


19 posted on 10/19/2008 8:23:33 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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The Bradley effect is BS. Bradley lost because of a last minute smear campaign involving crime stats and the race of the criminals.

Bradley wasn’t all that liberal, especially considering the very liberal constituency he represented. In fact, he was a good Mayor, IMO. He served 5 terms (20 years) and was reelected by large, and bipartisan, margins.

He exhibited none of the cronyism of his predecessor, Sam Yorty-a Dem turned RINO, was very pro business, and was as race-less a man as you could ask for. His management of the negotiations and logistics leading into the 1984 Olympics was masterful...and profitable, for Los Angeles.

If he were to enter politics today, he’d be a Conservative Republican by the standards of today’s Republicans.


20 posted on 10/19/2008 8:25:55 PM PDT by papasmurf (I ain't your Daddy's Conservative, OK?)
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Nobody ever claimed that Bradely lost because of race. That’s not what the “Bradley effedct” is. The effect is the difference between his showing in the polls — which, right up to Election Day, showed him ahead, generally comfortably — and his actual performance.

Most experts think that people who had no intention of voting for Bradley tole the pollsters that they would do so, and they believe that that was because of Mayor Bradley’s race.

The Bradley Effect has to be figured when looking at Obama’s polls, as well as the well-known skewing of teh samples with an overrepresentation of Democrats.

In spite of those two factors, McCain is within the margin of error.


24 posted on 10/19/2008 9:28:42 PM PDT by TBP
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bmflr


26 posted on 10/19/2008 10:13:09 PM PDT by Kevmo (I love that sound and please let that baby keep on crying. ~Sarah Palin)
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