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"Since the Internet will only expand as a source of information, a key question facing democracy is this: How can the Web's enormous advantages be reconciled with a greater sense of accountability?"

Yes, Cokie, I see your point. We private citizens should just sit down and shut up and let the truth telling professionals of the left stream media decide what's fit to print.

By the way, Free Republic is not a newspaper. We did not write the story in question, nor did we "pick it up," or vouch for its accuracy. We are a noncommercial discussion forum open to the general public. Apparently, the story in question was a press release that a member of the general public posted to FR in 1994 for discussion purposes. And it languished in the backwater archives of FR until some dimwitted, but sharp-eyed left stream reporter "discovered" it via google. Doubt it had any influence on the raging Barak Hussein Obama was born a Muslim rumor whatsoever.

However, as it turns out, our young Barak Hussein really was born to a Muslim and raised in his early years as a Muslim. It's in all the papers. Must be true.

1 posted on 10/18/2008 11:49:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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nice rebuttal

btw, your link redirects to something else, can’t find the original article


96 posted on 10/19/2008 4:46:09 AM PDT by fnord (If gun owners, pot smokers, and poker players start a political party, they'd never lose an election)
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"Since the Internet will only expand as a source of information, a key question facing democracy is this: How can the Web's enormous advantages be reconciled with a greater sense of accountability?"
The wisest and most cautious of us all frequently gives credit to stories which he himself is afterwards both ashamed and astonished that he could possibly think of believing . . .

It is acquired wisdom and experience only that teach incredulity,
and they very seldom teach it enough.
  - Adam Smith

Thus, we the people desperately need to pool our skepticism.

And when we found FreeRepublic.com, we knew we had found the way to do it.

Thanks, Jim!


97 posted on 10/19/2008 4:51:36 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (We come to FR to pool our skepticism.)
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...without the persistent truth-telling, fact-checking efforts of well-trained professionals, falsehoods can flourish...

Oh, and they do. But what does that say about the current crop of "professionals"? Are they poorly trained, or is it that they are just unprofessional?

The reason to ask is that we can see BS from the cheapseats. We have a broader knowledge base in aggregate than any network. And we can freely rely on people whose professionalism in fields other than journalism demands that they get the facts straight. Via forums like this one, we are interconnected.

Pity that all those "professionals" are so busy sucking up to their Socialist overlords they have wasted fine opportunities for Pulitzer Prizes uncovering the dirt on the very ones they protect.

98 posted on 10/19/2008 5:04:50 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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Yes, Cokie, I see your point. We private citizens should just sit down and shut up and let the truth telling professionals of the left stream media decide what's fit to print.

By the way, Free Republic is not a newspaper. We did not write the story in question, nor did we "pick it up," or vouch for its accuracy. We are a noncommercial discussion forum open to the general public. Apparently, the story in question was a press release that a member of the general public posted to FR in 1994 for discussion purposes. And it languished in the backwater archives of FR until some dimwitted, but sharp-eyed left stream reporter "discovered" it via google. Doubt it had any influence on the raging Barak Hussein Obama was born a Muslim rumor whatsoever.

However, as it turns out, our young Barak Hussein really was born to a Muslim and raised in his early years as a Muslim. It's in all the papers. Must be true.


BAH! HA HA HA HA!!!

That is going to leave a mark on her psyche!

100 posted on 10/19/2008 5:47:38 AM PDT by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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Talk about someone living in la-la land.

Cokie and Steve seem to miss the point that the “horizontal” system is necessary to correct the falsehoods fact-checked by well-trained professionals.


101 posted on 10/19/2008 5:50:56 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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Poor Cokie. After her Goebbel’s employer collapses, she’ll spend the rest of her life demonstrating Depends on an obscure porn web site and be happy for the $10 she makes.


102 posted on 10/19/2008 5:58:38 AM PDT by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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btt


103 posted on 10/19/2008 6:03:24 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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Knowing that I’m doing my small part to ruin Cokie Roberts’s day (week, month, year ...) makes me very, very happy.


104 posted on 10/19/2008 6:29:17 AM PDT by Tax-chick (After 5:00 p.m., slip brains through slot in door.)
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For the benefit of those who may not know, Croakie Roberts is Hale Boggs' daughter.

Hale Boggs was a career liberal politician, part of the corrupt Louisiana Rat machine, who served as House Majority Leader in the early 70's.

Given Croakie's heritage and upbringing, it would be truly shocking if she did not feel threatened by free speech, public forums, conservatism, and just about everything else Free Republic represents.

105 posted on 10/19/2008 6:30:43 AM PDT by Zakeet (Crime wouldn't pay if the government ran it)
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The "he's an Arab" smear reached so widely that the New York Times devoted a front-page story to its origins. Its conclusion: After the allegations first appeared in 2004, they were picked up by the conservative Web site FreeRepublic.com "

I would not be surprised if they attempt to shut down this website. He has already invoked the "Truth Squad", sent police to the homes of people who criticized him on blogs etc, investigating the Sheriff who endorsed McCain/Palin and are digging up dirt on Joe the Plumber.

These are a few examples and Im sure there have been more.

106 posted on 10/19/2008 6:38:25 AM PDT by Lady GOP
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“media mediation.” I had not heard that little duet before, but I immediately recognized the melody. It's the funeral dirge of the dinosaurs.
107 posted on 10/19/2008 6:57:12 AM PDT by Malesherbes (Sauve qui peut.)
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Sounds like Cokie got her talking points from Saturday Night Live.

Cokie, what were you complaining about?

112 posted on 10/19/2008 7:48:15 AM PDT by GVnana ("I once dressed as Tina Fey for Halloween." - Sarah Palin)
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***** Without "media mediation," without the persistent truth-telling, fact-checking efforts of well-trained professionals, falsehoods can flourish. *****

Right Cokie. Where would we be without the likes of..

Yep we need those 'professional fact checkers'.

114 posted on 10/19/2008 8:24:17 AM PDT by Condor51 (The only difference between Bill Ayers and Timothy McVeigh is the body count!)
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***** Without "media mediation," without the persistent truth-telling, fact-checking efforts of well-trained professionals, falsehoods can flourish. *****

This isn't really ROFLOL anymore....it's pathetic.

115 posted on 10/19/2008 8:29:37 AM PDT by Osage Orange (" I did not have radical relations with that man, William Ayers. " -Barack Hussein Obama)
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"How can the Web's enormous advantages be reconciled with a greater sense of accountability?"

Funny how they never raised that question back when ABC, NBC, and CBS shared a virtual monopoly on discussion and news information. What training, education, or qualifications, for instance, did that pole-up-the-ass liberal gasbag Peter Jennings have to be the Grand Poobah of news information? Or Dan Rather? Or John Chancellor? Or Bill Moyers? That seems like Pravda now compared to the competition, diversity, and alternatives available today as compared with before the internet. Gee, I don't remember calls for checking the "Reagan is a warmonger" meme. The "accountability" of Jennings and Rather went unchecked for years. For some it even seemed strange when The McLaughlin Group, Rush Limbaugh: The TV Show, and Crossfire began challenging the liberal monopoly on television news discussion back in the '80s and early '90s. There were snied comments from Jennings and Donaldson as their monopoly was challenged and questioned. How dare the people question the manufactured "news" of the big media monopolies!

Presumably we are supposed to take seriously a network that hires a junior Clinton staffer to monitor and direct discussion of political news. This is objective? Who made that call?

116 posted on 10/19/2008 8:32:23 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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But there's also a dark side to this horizontal system. Without "media mediation," without the persistent truth-telling, fact-checking efforts of well-trained professionals, falsehoods can flourish.

Just how many falsehoods that Obama has told the American people have you covered up Cokie?

117 posted on 10/19/2008 8:47:47 AM PDT by rocksblues (Sarah and Joe, Real Americans!)
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“Obama is not an Arab. And yet in a Pew Research poll, only 57 percent could correctly identify him as a Christian.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

This sentence is drivel! It makes as much sense as if I said that I am not from Texas but only 57 percent realize that I am an ex-sailor.

Of course I haven’t mentioned that I actually AM an ex-sailor, Obama is NOT a Christian he only spent twenty years attending a church that calls itself Christian but preaches black liberation theology that has nothing to do with Christianity.


118 posted on 10/19/2008 9:57:27 AM PDT by RipSawyer (What's black and white and red all over? Barack Hussein Obama)
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My observation on news dissemination

The original (Howard Stern Harlem)interview seems by it’s title to be done October 1st 2008

It’s posted to the political board I follow , Freerepublic.com, on Oct 10th and viewed by 1300 + people including me.

On Oct 19th the story is e-mailed to my wife who got it from a co-worker, the same day it was e-mailed to me from an acquaintance.

The two senders as far as I know have nothing in common.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2102239/posts


119 posted on 10/19/2008 10:03:28 AM PDT by UB355 ( Slower traffic keep right)
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“Since the Internet will only expand as a source of information, a key question facing democracy is this: How can the Web’s enormous advantages be reconciled with a greater sense of accountability?”

Translation: How can we implement that doggoned “gatekeeping function” for the Internet that Hitlery spoke of some time ago,and shut these free-minded people up?
You are spot on as usual.Thank you!!
Here’s an idea i’d like to float out there,to be lost to the winds of time forever....
How about applying some of that “accountablilty” to the likes of YOU, Cokie?


120 posted on 10/19/2008 10:16:03 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Sarah and Joe.....Let's GO!)
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Without "media mediation," without the persistent truth-telling, fact-checking efforts of well-trained professionals, falsehoods can flourish.

ROTFLMAO I'm stunned anyone can say this with a straight face... The MSM doesn't outright lie, but they cover the stuff that makes Obama look good - and they ignore or play down the stuff that makes him look bad.

It's the opposite for McCain or any other Republican.

In the larger sense, everything about the MSM is a lie.

McCain is starting to see the MSM for what they really are... and that's good.

121 posted on 10/19/2008 10:24:31 AM PDT by GOPJ (Mail acorns to MSM starting October 21. Reporters: ACORN addresses are in phone book.)
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