Posted on 10/17/2008 5:37:31 AM PDT by Tolik
John McCain was on tonightsharp, confident, and powerful. I think he won this debate, although only on points. True, McCain needed something more than a narrow win, but I still think he did himself some good. On the other hand, even when Obama is on the defensive, he radiates calm and confidence. That helps him, regardless of who wins or loses the argument on the issue at hand.
On ACORN, I continue to be stunned by Obamas denials of his extensive ties to this execrable group. The fact that ACORN came up at all is good. Most folks still dont know what ACORN is, how bad it is, and how deeply its tied to the financial meltdown. John McCain needs to make sure the public learns about ACORN and Obama. Obamas dissembling on his ties to ACORN shows that he recognizes his vulnerability on the issue.
ACORN is a powerful example of an Obama "association" that has immense policy implications. ACORN is a genuinely radical group. It believes in economic redistribution, the same question raised by the "Joe the Plumber" controversy. And ACORNs campaign to undermine credit standards in this country was an extremely important contributing cause of our economic meltdown. So Obamas ACORN ties are part and parcel of the core issues at play in this campaign.
Bill Ayers? As McCain noted, Ayers and Obama together gave hundreds of thousands of foundation dollars to ACORN. That needs to be unpacked, but McCains point begins to get at the real issue. This is not about what happened when Obama was eight years old. Ayers and Obama both believe in a redistributionist economic policies. Together Ayers and Obama backed radical community organizers like ACORN, a key player in the mortgage crisis. ACORNs assault on credit-standards was driven by its redistributionist philosophy. So Obamas radical associations reveal the truth of his economic policies. Its all of a piece. But this critical point has not been made.
People still speak as though the "associations" issue and the economic issue are two different things. Theyre not. ACORN wants to spread Joes wealth around. So does Bill Ayers. Thats why Obama worked with both ACORN and Ayers. Someone needs to explain all this to Joe.
What McCains campaign needs to do is take an "all of the above" approach. Make a positive economic case, and press the "associations" issue at the same time. But above all, McCain needs to draw the links between both lines of attack. The economic differences between Obama and McCain both explain, and are explained by, the Obamas history of radical political alliances. However much he may try to hide it, Obama has a strongly left-leaning worldview on economic and other issues. Those views place Obama much to the left of the public as a whole. Obamas current policies and his past political alliances and associations are part of a broader picture. In the time remaining, McCain needs to connect those dots.
Obamas radical associations reveal the truth of his economic policies. Its all of a piece. But this critical point has not been made.
People still speak as though the "associations" issue and the economic issue are two different things. Theyre not. ACORN wants to spread Joes wealth around. So does Bill Ayers. Thats why Obama worked with both ACORN and Ayers. Someone needs to explain all this to Joe.
What McCains campaign needs to do is take an "all of the above" approach. Make a positive economic case, and press the "associations" issue at the same time. But above all, McCain needs to draw the links between both lines of attack. The economic differences between Obama and McCain both explain, and are explained by, the Obamas history of radical political alliances. However much he may try to hide it, Obama has a strongly left-leaning worldview on economic and other issues. Those views place Obama much to the left of the public as a whole. Obamas current policies and his past political alliances and associations are part of a broader picture. In the time remaining, McCain needs to connect those dots.
Nailed It!
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Joe made Obama admit that he wants to “SPREAD THE WEALTH”
Obama has been campaigning for almost 2 years and the Media “intellects” didn’t get him to admit this.
Plumbers like Joe sure are good at cutting through all the cr%p.
Joe made Obama admit that he wants to SPREAD THE WEALTH
And now, Obama’s thugs and media squirrels are out to get Joe. They somehow got his sealed divorce papers - just like Obama did to Jack Ryan in the Illinois Senate race.
Don’t pay attention to what Joe exposed. Ruin Joe.
Welcome to communist America.
I thought Obama looked arrogant, uncomfortable, sweaty, and frustrated.
He is not an empty suit. He is a suit full of s*&t.
mark
Yes. Obama is nasty.
Call Roto-Rooter.
As a wrote on another thread, Nathan Sharanskys test for a country to be free is when anybody can get to a public square and say what he wants about the political rulers and what-have-you without a fear of persecution and intimidation. OK, to be clear, I am not making a case that we live in unfree country. My point is that the Left behaves in the way typical of tyrannical regimes when people are afraid to speak up because they do know they will be intimidated.
Joe the Plumber is being made an example of now: keep quiet or we will dig up stuff on you and publicly humiliate you. People are not perfect. Everybody have something they dont want to make public. So stay quiet or else...
Let’s help Joe pay off his $1100 tax bill.
One more thing, Dr. Sowell nailed another important point recently. The word "associations" implies a far less significant connection to radicalism than has existed. The operative word should be "alliances." An alliance cannot be so easily dismissed as being, "just a guy in my neighborhood." Follow the money and the political power that was accrued through these "alliances," and people can more readily reach infomed conclusions about the link between his radical alliances and his answer to Joe
Last night, McCain at the Al Smith dinner really with humor fried the Messiah. Still, since for two years I have been calling BHO a socialist pacifist, I wonder if the Pubs themselves will push the idea that BHO really is the socialist that he called for in his answer to JOE.
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Well said, that's exactly what the BO campaign is doing and the enemedia facilitates it.
McCain needs to make this case.
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