Would one think that this implicates insolation in some way?
Posted on 10/16/2008 3:34:41 PM PDT by xcamel
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601082&sid=alHWVvGnkcd4&refer=canada
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This is important
Has anyone proposed a CO2 catalyzer, is such a thing feasible?
Right now we can’t site an ordinary landfill, how are we going to permit multiple, massive storage sinks for CO2?
“As always, I think it should be addressed technologically rather than economically.”
Would you then be in favor of setting emmission levels and allowing the emitters to either adapt emission controls or mandate schemes such as cap and trade allowances, regulated markets and rationing?
I started out this year with the idea of adding an attic fan, recovering my worn kitchen floor and replacing my patio dorr with a leakproofed one.
After paying excess taxes and bailing out both my kids families, I have only the attic fan.
OMG! Ban CO2? Obama’s going to kill all the plants on the planet. This can’t be good for the unemployed. What the heck has he got against the unemployed?
Would one think that this implicates insolation in some way?
Hasn’t he already declared oxygen and dihydrogen monoxide dangerous pollutants?
The most immediate remediation comes only from a massive reduction of demand, ie population control; barring that, we must adapt as we adopt or we still fail.
No, only some people...as selected by Obama
Photosynthesis: Plants use carbon dioxide and produce oxygen.
Metabolism: Animals use oxygen and produce carbon dioxide
The Carbon Cycle...The original circle of life on earth
Never let the truth mess up method by which they will empty your wallet...
Don’t know enough about any potential CO2 catalyzer to comment.
The C02 from the C02 capture project I referred to is going in the C02 pipeline from the Dakota Gassification Company to the Canadian oil fields. The CO2 from the Gas Plant isn’t clean and some residual chemicals from that C02 are supposedly showing up in ground water up there.
Sounds like another unintended consequence.
Solar energy, unattenuated by an atmospheric barrier. Nice!
As I understand it, production of ethanol apparently produces prodigious amounts of carbon dioxide in itself (land clearing, manufacture, and use). If taxing fossil fuels becomes a viable option in the future, I think ethanol and other biofuels should be added to the list.
See my profile, point #7. The way that meteorologists and climate scientists do their respective analyses/predictions is distinctly different. And what they actually do is different, too. A climate scientist might try to determine if tropical system rainfall has a decreasing or increasing trend over several decades along the U.S. East Coast. A meteorologist will try to predict where the impacts of each storm will be.
At least 18 states currently exceed those levels with no immediate remedial tools at hand with which to comply.
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Catalyzer, no. Absorption:
Wallace Broecker Geochemist, Palisades, New York
Realistic statements from somebody who really knows how the world (climate-wise and social-wise) works.
Cap-and-trade seems like a shell game to me, and any economic restrictions will be widely opposed until/unless there is a clear perception of their necessity. New technology and improved efficiency are better ways to go.
Intriguing you should note this. From what I've read, the cold glacial periods were definitely dustier, but probably not enough so to affect insolation. Rather (this is the fun part) the higher dust levels put more iron in the oceans, increasing ocean primary productivity, which increases the air-sea CO2 flux, and thus helps to maintain the low atmospheric CO2 concentrations of the glacial period. As I've noted (profile has supporting material), the climate system needs to shift from glacial conditions to interglacial conditions; the shift trigger appears to be the rapidly changing insolation that occurs at Milankovitch cycle minima and maxima.
The concept does have merit.
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