Soccer mom gets concealed-weapon permit back

The Patriot-News ^ | Tuesday October 14, 2008 | MONICA VON DOBENECK

[Sisku Hanne]

"It was legal for Meleanie Hain to openly carry a gun to her 5-year-old daughter's soccer game, but that doesn't mean it was right, Lebanon County Judge Robert Eby said today."

[Turret Gunner A20]

Respect, even for Law, has to be earned. You aren't helping.

Well, if telling the truth is somehow detremental in your mind, I'm sorry but there is no way to help you.

But more to the point, your insistence on maintaing a false polition on the right to own and bear arms, and its source -- and trying to drag God and religion into the equation -- is damned sure not helping anyone to understand what is going on.

[JRandomFreeper]

Where does the right come from? What does Black say?

/johnny

[Turret Gunner A20]

If you don't own the means of protection, you ain't got squat. Ownership of property is also a God-given right.

Let's stay with one subject. It's hard enough getting you to give us proof of your assertions so far, without taking up something new.

[JRandomFreeper]

Ok. What is the foundation of the 2nd amendment, the Constitution, and what does Black say about that?

/johnny

[Turret Gunner A20]

Because I will enforce them. To my death.

That, however noble, still doesn't make them law.

[JRandomFreeper]

As a DA told me. "Law is what I say it is, around here."

/johnny

[Turret Gunner A20]

And the document is addressed to any would-be tyrant. You are just one of the nameless ones.

What makes me a tyrant, and whom am I tyrannizing?

[Turret Gunner A20]

So where does the right come from? What does Black have to say about that?

Why don't you tell us? I've been asking you for a source to back up your assertion that God gave us the right to keep and bear arms, how about telling us what Black has to say.

[Turret Gunner A20]

As a DA told me. "Law is what I say it is, around here."

Those jokers are noted for their over-inflated egos. And many of them have ended up in jail when they believed it.

[JRandomFreeper]

Never called you a tyrant. Just a wanna-be. You don't rate the full tyrant label.

Any man that doesn't recognize the right to self defense, and the right to own the means of self defense is someone that wants the general populace disarmed. Thats a wanna-be tyrant. All of them are welcome to disarm me.

/johnny

[JRandomFreeper]

You made the assertion that you KNOW that God didn't give us the rights to own firearms. Splain that.

You are backing off because you know what Black has to say about it.

The problem when a fast talker meets some sorry bastard that eats meat is that the bullshitter gets processed with the meat animals.

/johnny

[Turret Gunner A20]

Never called you a tyrant. Just a wanna-be. You don't rate the full tyrant label.

Any man that doesn't recognize the right to self defense, and the right to own the means of self defense is someone that wants the general populace disarmed. Thats a wanna-be tyrant.

And, you are saying I am such a man? Based upon what? Please cut and paste the EXACT WORDS I used that put that asinine notion in your head.

All of them are welcome to disarm me.

You trying to threaten me or something?

[JRandomFreeper]

I would never threaten anyone. Anyone threatens me, I will eat their liver while it twitches.

Any man that doesn't recognize the right to self defense and the right to keep and bear arms is a would-be tyrant.

It's up to you if you fit that mold.

/johnny

[Turret Gunner A20]

You made the assertion that you KNOW that God didn't give us the rights to own firearms. Splain that.

Please cut and paste those exact words (with reply #). I don't seem to recall using those words.

You are backing off because you know what Black has to say about it.

Now you're a mind reader???? The problem when a fast talker meets some sorry bastard that eats meat is that the bullshitter gets processed with the meat animals.

That did it. When you start getting masty and start throwing temper tntrums, it's all over. Go bother someone else.

[JRandomFreeper]

And why would my offer to disarm me be threatening? Seems like the guy being disarmed would be threatened.

/johnny

[JRandomFreeper]

Go bother someone else.

Sure thing, newbie.

/johnny

[JRandomFreeper]

Post #35. "However I am not stupid enough to claim that ownership as God-given when Iknow it is not."(SIC)

/johnny

[JRandomFreeper]

As I posted your quote in post #35... Where you clearly stated that you KNOW that God didn't give us our rights... I still have the question that you are evading.

Where do our rights come from?

/johnny

[truthnotspin]

While that other guy belittled the DoI, it is THE founding document and outlined our philosophy for governance.

Our Founders believed — as most people still do today — that we are creatures of God and that we are indeed endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights, including life.

Along with the right to life, we have the right to protect ourselves and defend our lives with deadly force, if necessary. Without the right and the means to defend your life, the right to life is meaningless.

Maybe he believes that he doesn’t have a creator and that government dispenses rights. That’s what government would have us all believe but it just ain’t so.

Maybe his looyah training beat all the sense out of him.

[IronJack]

Yep. I'm with you. I've already started doing it in some less obvious ways (certain licenses and permits and such that no "free" citizen should ever have to get in the first place). It may be time to escalate.

Civil disobedience has a long, honorable history in America.