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1 posted on 10/14/2008 4:39:30 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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2 posted on 10/14/2008 4:40:27 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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3 posted on 10/14/2008 4:42:37 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay

Ah America.
Land of the Free, Home of the Brave.
Sorry scratch that.
Ah America.
Land of the NOt So Free, Home of the Incompetant and Corrupt Government.


7 posted on 10/14/2008 4:53:03 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Vote FOR AMERICA . Vote McCain / Palin)
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To: RogerFGay
Wagner said by Oklahoma law someone can be legally served if the subpoena is put into the hands of someone 15 or older who lives at the same residence as the person.

Clearly the first thing to do then is to request the affidavit of service.

This seems like a pretty low threshold for serving documents, considering that child support payments could be some $100,000 over 18 years. This isn't a small claims court case.

8 posted on 10/14/2008 4:53:04 AM PDT by ikka
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To: RogerFGay

This is just one of the many benefits of replacing private morality with government mandates.


10 posted on 10/14/2008 4:54:32 AM PDT by Bertram3 ("Never give up. Never Give up. Never, never, never, never." Churchill)
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To: RogerFGay

Who said slavery was dead?


12 posted on 10/14/2008 4:55:15 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Lord please bless our nation with John McCain as president and Sarah Palin as Vice President! Amen.)
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To: RogerFGay

He should start suing for custody of the child.

This farce of a law exists in California too. I can’t believe Oklahoma has this on its books, though.


17 posted on 10/14/2008 4:58:02 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Lord please bless our nation with John McCain as president and Sarah Palin as Vice President! Amen.)
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To: RogerFGay
Under Arkansas law, if a negative DNA result is obtained, all unpaid child support is waived. Needless to say, paid child support is not returned.

It is not clear how Oklahoma could have obtained a default child support order against someone in prison. The order should be void.

20 posted on 10/14/2008 4:59:57 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: RogerFGay

I’m looking for the Freepers to show up here saying it’s this man responsiblity because he missed his trial date, even after he was exonerated of any parental involvement.


21 posted on 10/14/2008 5:00:06 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: RogerFGay
Wow. Freedom truly isn't free.

I hope the guy manages to somehow get out of this mess. What is just as ironic is that there are so many men out there who have kids that are not biologically theirs, but they have no idea. As someone once told me, unless you have very 'unique' features, or you do a DNA test, the only person who can be sure they are the parent is the mother.

24 posted on 10/14/2008 5:10:00 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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“In child support cases, the burden of proof is on the alleged father — the accused — according to Oklahoma statutes.

An alleged father must appear at a child support hearing to request a paternity test. If he does not appear, he is legally designated as the father and child support is established in most cases.”

If this is the case, then what prevents the mother from just picking a name out of the phone book?


31 posted on 10/14/2008 5:47:00 AM PDT by CSM ("Conservobabes are hot. Libitches are not." - stolen from rightinthemiddle)
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only in America where you present undisputed proof that you are not the legal father can this happen. the courts just want to wash their hands of it so the state doesn’t have to pay the woman to raise her child. just let some poor sucker pay the lyin woman and give her a free ride.


32 posted on 10/14/2008 5:48:11 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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LA County prosecutor Gil Garcetti is famous for making non-parental fathers pay child support. Just having the wrong name is sufficient.


33 posted on 10/14/2008 5:48:51 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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can’t let the facts get in the way of a good government sponsored lynching, now can we?


43 posted on 10/14/2008 6:13:18 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: RogerFGay

Man, I’m glad I’m out of those particular woods. It is not lost on me that he said the four years AFTER prison were the worst in his life.

Maybe the easiest solution is to rob a liquor store and try to stay in prison until the child is 18. ;)


88 posted on 10/14/2008 7:38:24 AM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: RogerFGay
"If you got me on default, you should still have to prove that I'm the father," he said.

You want justice? Ridiculous. You'll get none of that. You're just an ambulatory wallet to the family courts.

94 posted on 10/14/2008 7:42:33 AM PDT by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be)
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To: RogerFGay

It is really past time to use a little common sense in these cases. If the man is proven to not be the father, he should be totally off the hook for child support.

At this point, the only way this will be fixed is to lobby to change the law in the states that do child support this way. These officials and courts will never back down on this unless a law forces them to.


98 posted on 10/14/2008 7:46:17 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: RogerFGay

As many of us know, it’s the division of child support enforcement, not justice.
The key is “force”.
Whatever the woman says goes.


103 posted on 10/14/2008 7:49:59 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: RogerFGay
Department of Human Services

First and best target for budget cuts -- 100%.

106 posted on 10/14/2008 7:54:23 AM PDT by meadsjn (Socialists promote neighbors selling out their neighbors; Free Traitors promote just the opposite.)
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To: RogerFGay
This man's constitutional rights are being violated!

Thirteenth Amendment

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime where of the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

225 posted on 10/14/2008 2:40:15 PM PDT by Theophilus (Abortion: #1 National Security Issue, #1 Economic Issue, #1 Moral Issue)
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