Posted on 10/14/2008 4:39:29 AM PDT by RogerFGay
Yup. LA County comes after me about once every three or four years. Why? Because I have a pretty common name, and I had a California driver’s license 25 years ago.
Of course, being a male, I have no legal recourse to countersue and stop the harrassment for good.
Yep...and men like you promoting the election of the very chains that bind men. Oh, the irony.
As many of us know, it’s the division of child support enforcement, not justice.
The key is “force”.
Whatever the woman says goes.
I’m well aware that lots of middle and upper class kids get pregnant. My point was, in the context of kids APPLYING FOR WELFARE being required to name the biological father, that such girls have a significant probability of not knowing the father’s actual legal name.
That is absolutely true. So why don't all of you men protesting this injustice run out on November 4th and vote for a woman who has already *proven* she thinks she has the personal and *official* right to decide a man's and his children's lives for them? The word irony doesn't begin to cover this.
First and best target for budget cuts -- 100%.
PapaBear3625: I know what you were saying. I just used your comment as a springboard to get on my own soap box. Sorry, about that. It wasn’t fair of me to use your comment in that manner.
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Nice try. My issue is what it has always been...dead-beat dads are scum.
You pull that line every time anyone calls you on your BS.
Constitutionally, marriage and family issues belong to the states and to the people. The federal government is not allowed to regulate. 100% reduction in funding that supports family law reform is 100% appropriate and easy to do - with only benefits for taxpayers and society as a result. There is absolutely no downside except for those people who are part of the theft machine. By removing the federal government from family law regulation, and its pork-barrel funding, we would also be shutting down a significant organized criminal operation.
You said that I know why you’re posting those comments. My best guess - which I asked you about several times - is that you’re pushing the same-sex marriage agenda. If you’re right that I know why you’re posting, then I’m right that you’re pushing same-sex marriage.
so you are saying that it is a fed law that says in oklahoma he has to pay regardless of if he is the real father or not...??...i will have to check but i do believe that the states differ on the law...in fla one can put his name on the birth cert. as the father. if he finds out after 2 years that he is not the father to bad so sad he pays child support, but if it is under 2 years and a dna test is done and he is not the father he doesn’t have to pay. i don’t believe that is a fed law but a state law. correct me if i am wrong and please do so by showing proof.
This accusation is a tactic of yours. You've used it before with other freepers. It doesn't fly.
Dead beat dads are scum.
If it were easy to do, MRA's and FRA's would have accomplished it already. In fact, it is NOT easy to do. It hinges almost entirely on getting the RIGHT KIND of politicians into office. Electing people to high offices who you *already* know don't believe men have rights WRT children and who have a personal track record of acting on that belief will NEVER get these laws rescinded.
“In child support cases, the burden of proof is on the alleged father the accused according to Oklahoma statutes.
An alleged father must appear at a child support hearing to request a paternity test. If he does not appear, he is legally designated as the father and child support is established in most cases.”
An example of the screwy nature of this thing ... but at the state, not at the federal level.
As far as I know child support is the only area where DNA testing doesn’t matter. If you’re in jail for murder and DNA exonerates you, you go free; if you have a support order and DNA proves you aren’t the kid’s parent, tough.
“Easy to do” verses “easy to do.” It’s easy enough to do, in fact, but just impossible to get the people with the power to do it to do it. Too much corruption.
I agree on the importance of people understanding the background of how this began. I agree that reading the links Mr. Gay posts here are an excellent way to find that background out.
However, IMO history has now become more important here than looking at ways to get *out* of this travesty of justice. The *only* way we can get out of this mess is to start electing politicians who see the problem. Electing politicians who benefit privately by using this system will only get us more of the same system in the future.
Knowing how we got into it gives me a very clear understanding of how to get out.
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