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'The Great Schlep' may seal the Presidency deal for Barack Obama (to Florida to Convince Family)
The Times ^ | October 11, 2008 | Tom Baldwin

Posted on 10/12/2008 10:16:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Children and grandchildren are making trips to their Jewish families in Florida to persuade them to vote for the Democrats

Jonathan Packman has spent the past few days enjoying poolside views of the Atlantic at his elderly Jewish grandparents' condominium, eating quantities of their Mandel Bread – while trying to ensure that “pop pop” and “mom mom” vote for Barack Obama.

“I think my grandmother is moving towards Obama,” he says. “My grandfather is still undecided. He is old-fashioned and is having a hard time getting his mind wrapped around voting for a black man.”

Mr Packman has travelled from the ultra-liberal city of Berkeley, California, hoping that he can use his influence as a grandson to flip Florida – and the White House – back into Democratic hands.

It is called “The Great Schlep”, an effort organised by the pro-Obama Jewish Council for Education and Research, which should lead to hundreds of grandchildren descending on the Fort Lauderdale area for the Columbus Day weekend to combine an annual family visit with some ruthless political activism.

The reason is that elderly Floridean Jews, most of whom have migrated south for some retirement sunshine, are potentially the key swing voters in this crucial swing state.

They make up about 5 per cent of the state population but in Fort Lauderdale and Palm Beach County – where the shenanigans over hanging chads and uncounted ballots eight years ago gave the world President Bush – they number as many as one in four voters.

Although the latest polls in Florida suggest that Mr Obama is narrowly ahead, he has a problem with this usually reliably Democratic demographic. One survey suggests that he is supported by 57 per cent of Jews – compared with the 77 per cent for John Kerry four years ago.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: antichrist; jewish; obama
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To: rom
Rom ? look below.. in post # 18 .... you need to contact this guy... and get his help in Cali !

( Jonathan Packman
Senior Financial Analyst at Whole Foods Market
San Francisco Bay Area ) .... time is short... we can win this thing !!
21 posted on 10/12/2008 11:25:34 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

While that may be true, I have a suspicion that it may be due to fund raising efforts. Because, we do have LOTS of Republicans out here, and lots of them have deep pockets. But they are overwhelmed by the liberals and illegals / voting age children of illegals.

I have yet to see a single ad for John McCain out here on Television. Get a few Obama ones at night though.

I’ll make some phone calls however, it’s the least I can do. Latest Rasmussen has McCain down by 16% in Cali. And I am surrounded by Obamabots outside of my conservative enclave. They are nuts this year. Never seen anything like it before.


22 posted on 10/12/2008 11:34:01 PM PDT by rom (Cold on McCain '08. Enthusiastic about McCain-Palin '08!)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Who is he? I’m not clear on the connection? Maybe I am being dense, its past my bedtime. LOL.


23 posted on 10/12/2008 11:34:38 PM PDT by rom (Cold on McCain '08. Enthusiastic about McCain-Palin '08!)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

I keep hearing Callie is in play. This is really weird. The pro-marriage thing was also supposed to win but the polls are up and down???


24 posted on 10/12/2008 11:46:30 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: trumandogz

Unfathomable, isn’t it?


25 posted on 10/12/2008 11:50:22 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Tired from wondering whether we wake up in the newest socialist country tomorrow.)
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To: rom
I don't know who he is... but,, someone posted this about this guy, and he sounds like a BIG WHIG in Cali... and if he is on our side.. sounds like he could help us... it's worth a try.
Imagine that rom ? you the man ... you the guy who turns Cali in favor for McMack !!! ( McMack = McCain Maverick )
26 posted on 10/12/2008 11:59:02 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
" Unfathomable, isn’t it? "

More like : unconscionable
27 posted on 10/13/2008 12:01:16 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: rom; dragonblustar

When Reagan started pushing for prayer in schools as well as a conservative social agenda they became Democrats. Prior to that they were Republicans and were big advocates of the Civil Rights Movement.

As for their interests in Israel, they advocate the two state solution and believe the State of Israel must exist today as well as ten years from now, 100 years from now and 1000 years from now.

The Jewish People did not fight for a state that would last 60 or 600 years but for the long term .


28 posted on 10/13/2008 12:42:04 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

God bless Israel and keep her safe. I pray that this country will always protect Israel.


29 posted on 10/13/2008 12:43:49 AM PDT by antceecee (McCain ~ Palin '08 May God have mercy on us ansmd protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee

Yes, God Bless America and Israel and both will exist for thousands of years.


30 posted on 10/13/2008 12:45:39 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

Your lips to God’s ears. We are honored to protect God’s Chosen people.


31 posted on 10/13/2008 12:57:12 AM PDT by antceecee (McCain ~ Palin '08 May God have mercy on us ansmd protect us from evil.)
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To: HamiltonJay
IF you are Jewish and you vote for Fauxbama, you truly should be having your head examined

They would for sure be asking for a new HOLOCAUST!!!

32 posted on 10/13/2008 1:06:19 AM PDT by danamco
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Why would he help in California? He’s just been in Florida trying to convince his grandparents to vote for Barack Obama, at the urging of Sarah Silverman, no less. Besides, I thought everyone here thought people who eat natural/organic foods are tree hugging hippies.


33 posted on 10/13/2008 1:35:07 AM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: nickcarraway

Jewish voters in Florida are not going to be convinced by the youngsters to vote for Hussein.

This is an excuse to come down and enjoy the weather.


34 posted on 10/13/2008 2:02:18 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (A vote for Hussein is insane!)
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To: antceecee
"WHO the HECK does that kind of thing??? It’s SICK!"

The same kind of people that also constantly check on Grandpa's stock portfolio to make sure their inheritance is all right.

35 posted on 10/13/2008 4:11:15 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: chuckles

Most people have never heard of Odinga. They probably never will since the campaign never made it an issue.


36 posted on 10/13/2008 5:42:12 AM PDT by o2bfree
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To: nickcarraway; xzins
I'm betting the trips to Florida are to register to vote using their grandparents addresses and then send in absentee ballots.
37 posted on 10/13/2008 6:11:33 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Just_de_facts; xzins
The idea that any person who is Jewish or a supporter of Isreal would vote for Barack Obama is a mystery on par with the existence of the Higgs Boson.

I have noticed in my many years on this earth that people in general are self destructive. Self preservation is a discipline.

38 posted on 10/13/2008 6:13:27 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: kcvl
I read recently that Whole Food's sales were off by 30% and their share price, pre-crash, was off by 13%. While my area is dominated by organic farming and the country's largest organic dairy co-op is the largest employer, they have had to put off building a new office building, due to lack of funds. They have a huge turnover of employees at the low level: warehouse and cheese cutters and there is also a lot of turn at the milk desk, which I believe is a broker position, but I am not sure. I know this from the newspaper ads and talking to employees. Meanwhile, the local food co-op, subsidized by the organic dairy, who holds their note, cannot afford to hire anyone at the moment.

I noticed years ago that Whole Foods no longer carried lots of little lines, but instead had mostly house brand packaged foods. I don't see how anyone can afford their meat, as the prices are entirely out of line from 2 1/2 times the supermarket price for chicken, up to 9 times the butcher price for veal (Whole Foods veal=$45/lb 2 years ago). Even Trader Joe's has dropped in quality and selection while the prices have risen a lot. I think I saw organic beef tenderloin at $12-$15/lb there about 6 months ago.

Good luck to Jonathan. Bubbe may be lying to him, as well. Since the crash, Bubbe and Zayde may not even be able to afford their retirement much longer.

No one is factoring in the fact that the PUMAs are lying en masse to the pollsters and organizing to vote straight GOP to prevent a trifecta if zerO does manage to win. If zerO is walking away with this election, why do the grandkids feel the need to sway their vote and why in the solid blue areas of Florida, which are not only heavily, reliably donk, but the home of total election incompetents who win for the donks by fraud? What about the grandparents in the Orlando and Panhandle areas or on the West Coast? Why not organize the grandparents in Arizona, too? Come to think of it, the majority of retirees these days are the age of these folks parents (60+). The grandparents (80+) are reliable FDR donks. This smells of flop sweat.

39 posted on 10/13/2008 6:22:08 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; 2ndDivisionVet; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; Aiko; ...
FReepMail to be added or removed from this pro-Israel/Judaic/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

40 posted on 10/13/2008 6:23:18 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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