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Sarah Palin: Fatal Cancer? (FreeRepublic.com linked with pissant's thread)
theatlantic.com ^ | 10 Oct 2008 | effreygoldberg

Posted on 10/12/2008 8:04:47 PM PDT by neverdem

David Brooks is taking some heat from doctrine-enforcement agents of the left and right for stating, in an interview with me at that famed redoubt of populism Le Cirque that Sarah Palin represents a "fatal cancer" for the Republican Party...

(Excerpt) Read more at jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: davidbrooks; gingrichisarino; hillarytrolls; retard; sarahpalin; trolls
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To: Melas

People also laughed at the C student from Eureka College.

I’m just saying.


101 posted on 10/12/2008 10:06:20 PM PDT by rom (Cold on McCain '08. Enthusiastic about McCain-Palin '08!)
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To: ansel12
You have been against Palin from the first day and have been attacking her since, who was your choice?

I didn't have anyone in mind, but she certainly wasn't what I had in mind. Here's the thing, I'm really not trying to offend you, or anyone who thinks like you. I'm just honestly trying to lay my cards down on the table and let it be known that I'm not impressed by this woman. I'm sorry, I'm just not. I'm not impressed by her political experience. God only knows her education left me cold. I'm not impressed with her hokiness. I'm just not impressed period. I know it's now a mortal sin to not like Palin, but sorry, I don't.

102 posted on 10/12/2008 10:07:11 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: AuntB
Well, Melas, 80% of Alaskans get it. When Americans see Palin, they get it! She is what we are. What are you?

Well, let's see here B. I'm a lifelong Republican. I'm a veteran. I'm a father. I'm a grandfather. I'm a McCain supporter. What are you?

103 posted on 10/12/2008 10:08:24 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Melas
there is no comparing Alaska to Texas

Alaska is bigger than Texas!

104 posted on 10/12/2008 10:08:58 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

Alaska has more land than Texas. Texas GDP dwarfs alaskas, and Texas has half a dozen cities with more population than Alaska. Yeah, Alaska has more frozen tundra. Whoop.


105 posted on 10/12/2008 10:10:39 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Arguendo

Without knowing which other freeper names that you go by, I’m not much interested.


106 posted on 10/12/2008 10:10:41 PM PDT by ansel12 (America's favorite baby boomer, Sarah Barracuda. Hell, she's a natural-born world-shaker.)
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To: Melas

You sure read like a troll and you have since Aug. 29th.


107 posted on 10/12/2008 10:12:29 PM PDT by ansel12 (America's favorite baby boomer, Sarah Barracuda. Hell, she's a natural-born world-shaker.)
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To: ansel12

Obviously your definition of troll is anyone who doesn’t like Palin. I can live with that, if that’s the criteria.


108 posted on 10/12/2008 10:13:45 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Melas

I’m sorry, but there’s only one legitimate Freeper/conservative opinion on Sarah Palin. Nevermind that you’ve been posting since 2001; you’re still a troll according to a poster who joined four years after you since you don’t blindly accept it.


109 posted on 10/12/2008 10:15:38 PM PDT by Arguendo
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To: neverdem

What’s ironic is that Palin IS the attempted ‘cure’, but she’s an incredibly WEAK one that doesn’t have the leadership, intellect, or gravitas to come close to ‘curing’ the party. And if elected as VP, she won’t have much power either. One VP is going to turn the GOP around? The same GOP sprinting to socialism, the same GOP that blew their opportunity to govern, the same GOP that gave us the globalist, liberal socialist that is Bush, the same GOP that gives us open-borders, global-warming McCain?

She gives the kool-aid drinkers something to rally around because of the novelty of it.


110 posted on 10/12/2008 10:16:38 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: Melas
Well, you're the one hailing a woman with a B.A. in Communcations from Idaho U. as the savior of the Republican Party. Let's step back and think about this rationally

A man with a BA from Eureka College in Illinois went on to become the greatest president of the twentieth century.

111 posted on 10/12/2008 10:16:41 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Arguendo

IMHO, Gingrich is the the anti-Palin. The whole renewing America philosophy that he gave birth to was all about detail.

However, and this speaks extremely well of John McCain. McCain is obviously much, much smarter than I am. I would have never thought that his ticket needed something as superficial as I percieve Palin to be, but the cult-like following she’s developed just proves that he was right, and I was wrong.


112 posted on 10/12/2008 10:17:36 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Arguendo

So it would seem. Ah, well, these things pass. Election years are never pretty. We already dealt with the people who actually thought Duncan Hunter was ahead, so we can ride this one out too. With any luck, she’ll acquit herself admirably of her VP duties, and we’ll select a better candidate in 12.


113 posted on 10/12/2008 10:20:51 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Melas

No hellfire from me. I’m a hillbilly a/k/a redneck a/k/a blue-collar workin’ class a/k/a salt of the earth and I often encounter folks who aren’t comfortable around me because of who I am, and that’s okay, it doesn’t bother me in the least. One thing to bear in mind though, it doesn’t mean that folks like myself and Gov. Palin are unsophisticated, we’re comfortable with who we are and with those around us.


114 posted on 10/12/2008 10:22:04 PM PDT by Quicksilver (Sarah Palin: Reagan The Next Generation - Go Sarah!)
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To: Fiji Hill

Economics is a far cry from Communications my friend.


115 posted on 10/12/2008 10:24:35 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Harry Wurzbach
He is absolutely opposed to the notion of the citizen-politician. Politics is too important to be left to the masses. Their betters are the ones who should be entrusted with governmental power....Men like Roosevelt (either), Kennedy, and Bush41 are the type of men Brooks believes should be the executive in our federal government. Patrician, wealthy, Ivy League educated, and ‘wise.’ Men like, well, him.

DING DING DING DING ....

No more calls, please, no more calls. We have a winner.

Seriously, you have it precisely right. I would add, moreover, that it was the mandarin Acheson, not the former haberdasher Truman, who committed the verbal stumble (omitting Korea from a list of our guarantees) that brought on the Korean War. And it was the deep, wide counsel of the "wise men" in the Kennedy Administration (Averell Harriman, Maxwell Taylor, the Bundy brothers, etc.), and not the Main Street leadership of the Babbitt-like Sen. Bob Taft (R-Ohio) or his successor Barry Goldwater (R-Ariz.) that took us to Vietnam.

As for what separates the luminary lords of Manor Bush from Babbitts like Taft, it is instructive to remember that the Bush founder/dynast Prescott Bush began life as a shoe salesman in Ohio (Taft's state) who, wanting to get ahead in the world, figured out that the road up lay through Yale University, where "Pressy" managed to "get over" on the fellows of the class that must be deferred to, in consequence of which Pressy eventually became a United States senator from Connecticut -- and George H.W. Bush a legacy Yalie and Bonesman.

Such is that which separates patrician Bushes from proletarian Tafts.

116 posted on 10/12/2008 10:24:52 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Melas
I'm a lifelong Republican. I'm a veteran. I'm a father. I'm a grandfather.

So was Senator Jacob Javits, the New York Republican whose voting record was not all that different from McGovern's.

I'm a McCain supporter

Being a "Republican" and a "McCain supporter" doesn't automatically make you a conservative.

117 posted on 10/12/2008 10:26:24 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Melas
IMHO, Gingrich is the the anti-Palin. The whole renewing America philosophy that he gave birth to was all about detail.

Exactly, and that philosophy inspired one of the greatest landslides we've seen in decades.

The problem with the Republican party is it's done very little to appeal to educated (or even critically thinking) voters. People will say I'm being elitist--which is now the worst possible insult on this site--but Reagan and Gingrich managed to appeal to (among others) these voters without being elitist by effectively articulating compelling, conservative philosophies that anyone could reasonably adhere to.

Since Bush, Republicans have done a terrible job at either communicating or acting on any coherent philosophy, which is why despite Rove's short-term political skill in building a successful coalition, the party's support has collapsed in the past few years. McCain, with his generally populist rhetoric, does nothing to change this. And Palin only further continues the trend.

You can see the same trend in the popularity of conservative media figures like Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity. They can repeat conservative slogans, but I doubt they could intelligently discuss most issues at a deeper level and explain why the conservative position actually makes more sense, and as a result they do little to convince anyone actually undecided on an issue.

118 posted on 10/12/2008 10:34:20 PM PDT by Arguendo
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To: Melas
IMHO, Gingrich is the the anti-Palin

In terms of their personal lives, Gingrich, who was married three times, is most certainly the anti-Palin.

119 posted on 10/12/2008 10:36:30 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Arguendo

Exactly, which is why these comparisons between Reagan and Palin don’t ring true. Reagan appealed to me. I cast my very first presidential vote for Ronald Reagan. Palin, on the other hand does not appeal to me at all. I remember Reagan, and she’s no Reagan.


120 posted on 10/12/2008 10:40:45 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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