Posted on 10/12/2008 5:56:50 PM PDT by dascallie
From Freeper philly ray:
Several things. It is alleged that Ed Hale, an avid Hillary supporter, has confirmed that he has in his possession a certified copy of a Kenyan birth certificate for Obama. This was reported by several posts I have read. Ed Hale's site and his radio station have been removed and it is stated that they were shut down for security reasons. Another posting I came across alleges that Phil Berg would neither confirm nor deny the report and that everything is being kept hushed for security reasons and that Phil Berg will not respond unitl he has had the opportunity to produce such in a hearing.
If the above is true, questions will swirl around the authenticity. I would presume it true, false birth documents will crop up as alleged proof Obama was born in Hawaii and alleged witnesses will be made avaialbe.
The law suit provides little by way of sound evidence except for the alleged dcoument from the Jakarta school. If that document is real, then other questions are raised as to whether Obama is a natural born citizen or a naturlaized citizen , the former making him elligible for Presidency, the latter would not. The arguments in the pleadings and in the last answer provided by Plaitiff Berg are very interesting in that they name a place for the birth. And, it is alleged the hospital name is known.
So there are actually two issues or avenue of attacks: 1. Obama was not born in the States and despite his mother being a citizen, she did not meet the rules for her child to be a citizen; and 2.) He lost natural born citizen status by virtue of the Indonesion citizenship, dual citizenship was not allowable due to the Hague convention rules and then there is no ability to become a natural born citizen thereafter, rather ownly a naturalized citizen.
Finally, Obama stated when applying for the Illinois bar that he never had any aliases. And he indicated publicly that he never was a muslim and never practiced such or studied such. If the Indonesion document is correct, then he lied on his bar application and he lied about his religion which would raise serious questions as to why. My gut is there is something here or Obama would have simply provided what was necessary. As an attorney, I cannot see any benefit from stonewalling, hiding behind legal maneuvering and why it is that he would not want to simply be transparent and end the controversy with the required documentation to prove thaht he meets the requirements to be President of the United States.
336 posted on October 12, 2008 8:49:54 PM EDT by philly ray [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse]
It’s just all too surreal.
McCain/GOP know all this- yet say/do nothing.
Is it all a conspiracy?
An example of journalistic malpractice! Let the media know how we feel and hopeful get some facts out by helping with this:
An October 21st protest of the media is being planned. The website needs freeper help posting information now!
It may be the case that Berg is completely wrong. If so, the Obama campaign could have submitted documentation to the court quashing this case. Instead, it has chosen to engage in a legal strategy of delay. Why would they do this if Obama's documentation were in order? Why would they only provide electronic (so far as I know) copies to friendly sources? Perhaps someone can explain that satisfactorily, but I cannot.
From website Americanthinker, video link above.
Well, all I can say is somebody better sh*t or get off the pot for cryin out loud. Somebody better come forward now with proof or they should just shut up.
We have many more things that are really tangible right now such as the voter fraud registration by ACORN to contend with.
Berg does not want the money. I am Berg's favorite charity. (smile)
this is why I am feeling like I am
either there is nothing to this and the media should cover it to let everyone know it is false after their investigations or they know it is true and they report it
either way they should be covering it and no one is nor is the GOP saying anything
The law states he has to be born here, his grandmother says she saw him born in Kenya, his records do not match up, corsi is held, and obama gets a lawyer to stop us from seeing it
AND NO ONE COVERS THIS ON TV or in the MEDIA
the GOP has not made one AD with obama being in Kenya on tax money helping a radical like odinga get elected
what the hell is going on here
I’m guessing if Obama wins and then is declared ineligible that we’ll have President Biden (UGH). But, if this comes out before the election it would give the win to Republicans. Don’t think Soros wants the second scenario.
The way I understand it he had to reclaim it at 18.
It’s just all too surreal.
McCain/GOP know all this- yet say/do nothing.
Is it all a conspiracy?
I dont think it’s all a conspiracy. IMO, up til now nobody could prove it. And I hope this is the real deal so we can end this game. Remember Clinton’s remark about “if he’s qualified”. Also, this will set off riots. Explains why President Bush has troops stationed at home. Bho isnt just going to walk away.
Gotcha. Posted my lengthy list of MSM emails
I’m guessing if Obama wins and then is declared ineligible that we’ll have President Biden (UGH). But, if this comes out before the election it would give the win to Republicans. Don’t think Soros wants the second scenario.
What’s even scarier is we will have vp Pelosi.
Great! Thanks.
The law states he has to be born here, his grandmother says she saw him born in Kenya, his records do not match up, corsi is held, and obama gets a lawyer to stop us from seeing it
AND NO ONE COVERS THIS ON TV or in the MEDIA
the GOP has not made one AD with obama being in Kenya on tax money helping a radical like odinga get elected
what the hell is going on here
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Exactly.
At the risk of repeating myself; THIS IS INSANE.
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Do you think this will finally break tomorrow?
Not sure about that. If Obama is declared ineligible, his whole campaign is out the window. Biden can’t be President because the people didn’t vote for him......especially if the campaign is deemed illegal to begin with. It would be a true test of our Constitution.
Explains why President Bush has troops stationed at home.
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What do you mean?
“Remember Clinton’s remark about “if he’s qualified”.
Exactly. Here is a link with that video imbedded on the left side... he drops that little side remark in at the 2:38 mark.
Very strange thing to say unless Bill intended to send a message...perhaps it was, “Check mate, Barry.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5506458
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