[Jim Noble]

The problem, as I see it, is that the conservative movement has lost all credibility.

A massive amount of power was given to conservatives by the People in 1994.

The result is well known.

The premises of 1994 (as I see them) were Liberty, smaller government, and transparent uncorrupted leadership in Congress.

On all three counts, not only were the People betrayed, but their "leaders" in fact pissed on their heads and told them it was raining.

There are no second chances at regime change.

It's the other side's turn, now.

[org.whodat]

On all three counts, not only were the People betrayed, but their "leaders" in fact pissed on their heads and told them it was raining.

Nailed it, one was to busy banging the sectary, and whining about the back of the plane, and the other was to busy buy land and building roads to develop his land.

[OneWingedShark]

I agree. It was a massive stab-in-the-back. An “Et Tu Brutis” moment, if ever there was one, because, like you say, they went back on everything they said they were going to do.

[rabscuttle385]

The problem, as I see it, is that the conservative movement has lost all credibility.

Common-sense and pro-Constitution conservative values never lost their credibility. Big Government Republicanism, on the other hand, did, and, by masquerading as conservativism, damaged the conservative brand.