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Campaign heats up: Minnesotans urge McCain to attack
Bemidji Pioneer ^

Posted on 10/11/2008 1:18:52 AM PDT by Chet 99

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To: Chet 99

Positively bizarre. Seconds after saying “I got your message,” he’s saying it’s NOT IMPORTANT to defeat Obama.


21 posted on 10/11/2008 4:01:42 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

I’ve been thinking about this a little bit with regards to what McCain was saying. Yep, I’m a little frustrated with his answer, but I believe he’s thinking that things could turn violent given how angry people are over everything. He could have worded it better where he could have went after Obama passionately on the issues and then told the people to take their frustration and vote!

This shows me that WI and MN are very much in play, which is not what the polls say - the Ayres issue is becoming a huge issue with voters and rightfully so. Now, if Obama is supposed to be winning this in a “landslide”, then why is he buying 30 minutes of airtime on the networks and engaging in voter fraud?


22 posted on 10/11/2008 4:24:07 AM PDT by DocT111
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To: Arthur McGowan
“Positively bizarre. Seconds after saying “I got your message,” he’s saying it’s NOT IMPORTANT to defeat Obama.”

Bizarre indeed, but vintage McCain. He got our message about “comprehensive immigration reform” too. He plainly didn't agree with the message or plan to absorb and act on it in any way, but he got it. McCain is just throwing us a bone. It's insulting.

You can't win an election if your front man can't make your arguments because he doesn't believe them. The financial crisis has turned next month's vote into a referendum on capitalism. McCain is an authoritarian statist who doesn't care a bit about freedom, economic or otherwise. Occasionally he'll go on a riff about how his POW experience makes him prize liberty. Unfortunately he's talking about the absence of incarceration. He has never grasped what liberty means beyond that.

McCain won't argue for capitalism because he doesn't believe in it. He won't attack Obama as a socialist revolutionary because, fundamentally, he's got no problem with socialism.

The man would be a disaster if he came on the heals of a Reagan. Following W, who never had the ability or inclination to defend himself against his political enemies, McCain may mark the moment when the decline of Western Civilization became irreversible.

It is hard to understand how Republicans could have screwed up this badly during the primary season, but they did.

23 posted on 10/11/2008 4:58:47 AM PDT by fluffdaddy (Is anyone else missing Fred Thompson about now?)
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To: Chet 99
Oh come on John, being a nice guy has gotten “W” a lot hasn't it

Don't be a flippin’ idiot, John you are acting like
an out of touch OLD FOOL,just like they say you are.

24 posted on 10/11/2008 4:59:44 AM PDT by ThreePuttinDude () ......hey 0bambi, I have 2 bracelets......()
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To: Darkwolf377

Patriotic Americans are terrified at what is coming. What will happen to our nation if this nightmare comes to pass? John McCain and his terrible scheme of mortgage buying looks old and tired on the campaign and will not use the tools he has at hand to win this election. He has to put doubts in the heads of Americans about Hussien Obama’s associations, loyalty, patriotism. What has happened to the Sheriff of Lee County FLA for just mentioning the middle name of Barack Hussien Obama is only a taste of things to come if BHO wins this election. God have mercy on our nation.


25 posted on 10/11/2008 5:23:39 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Chet 99

McCain’s butt-kissing of Obama last night night sickens me. It will be used against him.

He just kicked his base in the teeth. I’ve taken down my McCain sign from my yard. If he’s going to phone it in, I may as well too.


26 posted on 10/11/2008 5:28:33 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Life is too short to go through it clenched of sphincter and void of humor - it's okay to laugh.)
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27 posted on 10/11/2008 6:16:18 AM PDT by Bobalu (Obama cannot win without the kind of people that Palin appeals to.)
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To: Chet 99

I posted these thoughts on a thread last night. They remain fresh with me this morning. I’ve edited them a bit for clarity.:

I’m still trying to figure out a way to post my impressions of the rally without appearing to be a defeatist or an unrealistic RINO. It is a fine line to walk because I DO believe Obama is dangerous to our Constitution, our freedom and our very way of life.

In my point of view, the media gave us McCain, and I am trying my very best to make lemonade from lemons.

Freepers, I was disappointed. I had to make my way to the back of the audience, away from my inexperienced but lovely political compadres with whom I’ve been phonebanking.

A secret service agent and I shared a back wall, poor guy. I wish I could’ve joined the folks in the bleachers that gave McCain the loud boos when he said ACORN is alleged to have had some voting improprities. ALLEGED? I was yelling PROOF! Obama is a good man who has done good things??? BOOOO!

The rally was really well run and I think the woman who barged through and said Obama was an Arab could’ve been a kook. Otherwise, a third of the questions/comments wanted him to hit back and hit hard at Obama.

Senator McCain, I am a moral person, and I believe in fighting a good fight in the realm of gentleman. However, those days are long past, much to my chagrin. Even Rudy Boschwitz, our former Minnesota Senator, said you must hit Obama hard on his Anti-American past. He called you out in this forum, a good friend of yours! You are fighting a Chicago thug politician. It does not mean that you have to resort to Obama’s level of smearing the newborn Down’s son of your VP candidate, but you can fight the man who threatens our republic.

Do NOT call Obama, a good man. He associates with people that say the suicide bombers on 9/11 did not do enough.

I hoped to be energized by your talk today. What the h*ll happened to “Country First?”


28 posted on 10/11/2008 6:33:27 AM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: Chet 99

Why is it that Republicans have to take a 2 X 4 to mcCain’s head every few days ?


29 posted on 10/11/2008 6:36:41 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

You know it’s pretty bad when reserved, ultra-polite Minnesotans have to get out the 2x4. I remember from our conversations, that you have lived here in the past.

I’m still voting for McCain, well Palin, and have many hours of phone-banking ahead of me. I guess it’s up to me and my fellow callers to point out Obama’s foibles. Thanks John for making my job that much harder. In a positive way, I guess McCain has honed my resolve to get the message out because he won’t, but d*mn, I hate being stuck in this position.


30 posted on 10/11/2008 6:53:22 AM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: Chet 99
McCain Tries to Tame Flames He Earlier Fanned

The above is a link to the town hall meeting, so now you can see and hear yourself.

31 posted on 10/11/2008 7:01:04 AM PDT by repinwi
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To: mplsconservative

I recall thinking that Bush 41 really didn’t want another four years of WH duty and I’m wondering if McC has the same lack of fizz.


32 posted on 10/11/2008 7:01:57 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Darkwolf377

“I disagree with Giuliani on many things, but I think he could wipe the floor with this guy in a debate. “I’ve run a city that was a target of terrorists on 9-11 and worked for the justice department prosecuting gangsters, what the hell have YOU ever done? Huh? Speak up, we’re not in Chicago anymore, you don’t get patted on the back just for showing up.””

Hindsight is 20-20, ain’t it?

Giuliani was a scrapper with both his political opponents and the press. He LOVED “the fight”, and even though he didn’t win every one that he was in, he at least _tried_. He wasn’t afraid to make assertations that would cause both the media and his political enemies to howl. Good on him.

McCain seems to envision himself as a “compromiser” willing to “work” with the other side. As much as I respect his years of service and confinement, he seems afraid to go for the jugular, or for any other artery, for that matter.

I would to see McCain to turn this around, but - short of some sort of seismic shock that even the media can’t avoid covering up - I sense that he has lost the election.

I can’t say that Rudy would have won in his stead. This has been a near-impossible year for Republicans, and nearly everyone fears attacking Obama because of the race factor. (Aside: I have posted openly about that factor here on FR, when few others were willing to address it.) And we know how folks who loudly supported Giuliani were treated earlier this year in this very forum.

But one thing is for certain:
Rudy is a political warrior.
McCain - his heroic military past notwithstanding - is not.

- John


33 posted on 10/11/2008 7:05:43 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: fluffdaddy

“The financial crisis has turned next month’s vote into a referendum on capitalism.”

Yours is perhaps the most insightful comment I’ve seen on this election from ANYone.

But... as good as it is.... I pray that you are wrong.

- John


34 posted on 10/11/2008 7:08:25 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

After seeing McCain yesterday, I don’t think it’s a lack of fizz. He truly believes in his ‘statesmanship’, just like President Bush 43. In that sense, he’s authentic.

That’s not the way the world works today though, and he’s going to bring the rest of us down with his unwillingness to deal with the Left in a harsh, unblinking manner. Palin is my only hope at this point. Too bad she’s not at the top of the ticket. People can scream all they want about her lack of experience. Obama has no experience. Can you tell I’m frustrated? LOL!


35 posted on 10/11/2008 7:20:05 AM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: mplsconservative
Sarah has the right instincts and this qualifies her for the Veep slot. McC exhibits formality and gentlemenlyness from years in the clubby US Senate. This is probably why governors made better candidates for the presidency.

One of our last nice weekends down here for a while. We will head out on the pontoon and try to put aside the daily blather.

36 posted on 10/11/2008 7:27:04 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Chet 99
The only person McCain is going to attack is himself. He is the first politician I have ever seen to distance himself from himself. Next he will stop campaigning because he isn't running the campaign he wanted too. Unfortunately he has become the candidate we all feared and hoped he wouldn't.
37 posted on 10/11/2008 7:28:47 AM PDT by engrpat
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To: Chet 99

What do McCain and Obama have in common:

Neither one of them like reaching across to Republicans.

Pray for W, Palin/McDole and Our Troops


38 posted on 10/11/2008 7:31:47 AM PDT by bray (It's the Corruption Stupid)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Enjoy your day, Eric. It’s a picture perfect Minnesota fall day here, crisp air and beautiful autumn tree color.

I’m going to chill out for awhile myself. Life is too short to be consumed by this stuff. (I keep telling myself that.) LOL!


39 posted on 10/11/2008 7:37:20 AM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: Chet 99
“(Obama) is a decent person and he is someone you don’t have to be scared of as president of the United States,” McCain said to a chorus of boos.

Well, John, he scares the hell out of me and, frankly, he should do the same for you!

Did you steadfastly oppose the Communists for 5 1/2 years in the Hanoi Hilton - only to make nice with them today when they are in the position of actually taking over your country?

Get real, McCain, or quit the race and let somebody with some sense and determination take your place at the top of this ticket before you blow this election to the onrushing tyranny of an unknown Marxist sneaking into the Presidency at the head of a new Leninist Movement!

40 posted on 10/11/2008 8:08:18 AM PDT by Gritty (We like Mr. Obama and we hope he will win the election - senior Hamas official)
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