Posted on 10/10/2008 2:50:06 PM PDT by acsuc99
If the polls are right, and McCain is in such trouble...why is he campaigning in Minnesota and Wisconsin...2 states that went fore Gore and Kerry and ones he doesn't need to win?
Is his campaign that stupid or do they know something we don't? I find it hard to believe he would be spending precious time in states like this is he was in such dire straights but then again his campaign seems to be really all over the place in terms of sound decision making.
MN has been trending redder in the past few cycles. But how can polls show McCain ahead in MN but behind in FL? That alone should raise a lot of questions. FL is much, much redder than people assume. GOP Governor and Legislature. Outside of southeast Florida, it is so red a Democrat couldn’t get elected dog catcher.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Us midwesterners really like Sarah. She is one of us. We like how she talks and acts. One commentator, speaking of the VP debate, said midwesterners were telling him, “Finally a national candidate who talks normal.”
Also, Franken is behind big time. Only poll that showed him ahead was an outlier by the lefty star trib (IIRC).
Chet 99 posed 3 theories. Only one of them was negative.
Why am I not surprised that’s the one you chose to concur with?
They won WI only due to massive fraud in Milwaukee. The fraud is much more widespread this time. Our only hope is that "moderate" Dems reject BO in huge numbers to counteract the rampant cheating that's going on.
Because I actually believe that McCain has run an ineffective campaign.
Palin is from Alaska.
But her twang is from Chippewa Falls.
There is not a single reason to look at these media driven national polls unless you actually take the time to look at the internals. Their goal is to discourage you from taking the time to vote because there is no chance of your guy winning. They have pulled this crap every election year since Reagan only they are so much more off the deep end this year that it is a joke.
Bush stumped there for mandate and cash reasons imo. Plus, there were some polls that showed him within the margin of error 2-3 weeks before the election in Jersey and then it went to 5-6% out of nowhere.
If we get rid of the fraud in WI we have a chance.
RCP is horsecrap
I plan on taking a vacation on election day. My neighborhood, is over 80% black and I don't want to change them rioting if Obama loses. Don't worry I will still be voting though. In my state you can vote early.
Because both of those states were close in 2004, and with the full frontal assault on Obama’s character we should win both of these states. He’s there closing the deal.
War-weary public
Economic “crisis”
Hostile media
GOP President with 25% approval rating
85% “wrong track” numbers
Luke-warm GOP support (thanks, guy)
And, yet, McCain is within the MOE!!!!!
So, where’s the ineffective part?
To be fair the whole State was disgusted by the Wellstone Memorial...but I think as a whole there is a much better chance of the Iron Range being reddish purple which would very well tip the balance.
Here in WI we may just be able to turn that around. Our AG is a Republican who has been hammering by lawful order the voter commisioners to have their voting rolls legal. Will there still be fraud? Yes, but I don’t think it’ll be as rampant as it was in 2004...I expect stunners in both my old home state and my current home state.
both states are in play. friends in IN are helping in WI beyond the Chi-town media market. there really could be action out there and he’s “fighting.”
If he wins, it would not have been ineffective.
The McCain/Palin campaign have only a limited amount of campaign money to spend. They would be wasting it in states they didn't think they could win and if they are in a given state, it's because their internal polling is telling them that they have a chance there.
On the other hand, the mainstream media polls are more intended to shape opinion, not measure it. They are constantly tinkering with their methodology (the special sauce) to support a desired outcome. It is no secret that mainstream media desires that the Democratic ticket win the White House so their polls are going to reflect that desired outcome. That is why they are currently oversampling Democrats and concentrating on eligible voters rather than likely voters (which would yield a much more accurate result).
Now granted, these polling organizations need to be credible in order to stay in business year after year so as it gets closer to Election Day, you will see them move closer and closer to the reality of the situation. But by then, they would have influenced a lot of voters to shift in the desired direction (everybody wants to "vote for a winner") and the end result will hopefully for them be a case of turning a wish into a reality.
We need to stop falling for this crap. Whenever we get upset and angry over the latest polls, those in the MSM are squealing with delight because they will know that their tactics are working. Not only are they shifting the undecideds in their favor but they are getting the added bonus of conservatives throwing in the towel and not even bothering to vote for the only poll that really matters.
I have always stated that you can gain the true measure of a presidential campaign by observing where they are campaigning. If McCain and Palin were campaigning in West Virginia, Texas and Florida, we would be justified in hitting the panic button. But that is not the case.
So we should be encouraged rather than discouraged that McCain is up in Minnesota and Wisconsin. This is a very good sign. And for what it is worth, I am seeing McCain/Palin yard signs popping up all over the place around my neighborhoods. Keep the faith.
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