This election is going to be the DADDY of all elections I fear.
Posted on 10/09/2008 6:12:38 PM PDT by NonZeroSum
How widespread is the voter registration fraud that ACORN has been responsible for? How much has it artificially boosted Democrat registration numbers this year?
There are two factors that have increased Dem registration this year. One is the efforts by ACORN and similar groups. The other is the significant numbers of
Republicans who switched to Democrat so that they could vote for Hillary Clinton in the primaries. The first group isn't going to vote for Obama because they don't exist, to a large extent. The second group is going to vote for John McCain.
All of the likely (and even registered) voter polls are skewed to sample Dems more because of this perceived increase in Democrat voters. But if much of that increase is illusory, due to the factors described above, are the polls overstating support for Obama?
So the pollsters are asking people who aren’t even eligible to vote. Does that mean the polls just may be wrong, based on the number of ineligible voters are also misinformed about Obama?
All I know is that they CALL people and end up with info from people who actually ANSWER the phone. Not too many people I know answer their phones anymore if they don;t recognize the caller......
And just WHO answers?? The people who are watching the View or Oprah and are hoping it is someone who will listen to their troubles??
Polls have to be squewed by crazy or lonely or stupid people.
You still must worry about the ones that don’t exist!
Even a “Mickey Mouse” registration will be voting a straight demo ticket with the help of crooked polling place workers after the polls close :-(
THIS is why Acorn gladly pays cash for obviously phony registrations....they know if they get in the system each can cast votes with a bit of help.
But they don't think they can ‘fix’ it before the election. Does that boggle you!!
Just because they don't exist doesn't mean they won't vote.
Hmmmmmm.
There’s another missing puzzle piece:
Registering phony names with the intent of later voting under those names requires that you KEEP A RECORD of which names are phony.
A separate record on only phony names registered (or a full record of names registered, with any marking or covert code identifying the fake ones) is clear evidence of the intent to commit voter fraud.
I hope every scrap of paper and every byte of data has been seized from the ACORN sites that have been raided, and our betters have the wit to search them for this.
I’m a bit dense tonight. Weren’t those fraudulent registrations going to be used by fraudulent Obama voters? Otherwise, how was this supposed to help him?
I heard that they sign people up using the same name, a guy on Fox today admitted he signed 15 forms! I heard that the ones that are homeless and stuff don’t ACTUALLY vote, they just give their info and someone votes in their place. Also heard that 59 of the ACORN workers are CONVICTED FELONS, many convicted for...get this...IDENTITY THEFT!!!!!
Could the FEDERAL authorities require photo ID for those voting for president even if the states don’t?
2000: Hanging Chads
2008: Hanging Acorns
I can see it now. The cheats will be crying about the stolen votes of people who are dead, members of a Dallas sports team, pets and Kenyans.
This election is going to be the DADDY of all elections I fear.
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Good post potlatch!
This is the first election where I have seen the FBI and Federal Judges raiding crooked non-profits operating on US taxpayer taxes like ACORN and issueing Restraint Orders to Secy of State like Judith Brunning in Ohio who has been breaking Federal voting laws by refusing to allow Ohio Counties to have registration lists to check for voter and ID fraud
If the Mail-In or Absentee Ballots are opened - soon - the bogus ballots cannot be ID’ed and tossed out!
[If the Mail-In or Absentee Ballots are opened - soon - the bogus ballots cannot be ID’ed and tossed out!]
I just don’t understand how all the laws work on that stuff. Perhaps that’s because I’m honest and logical.
If they know such and such number of voter registrations are dead people then they know WHOs name is on them and should destroy them.
My 2 cents. I think we have a variety of motives here.This behavior helps the democrats in several ways. They get more ballots cast in their favor, and they get to destabilize the system.
Some of the phony apps. are in fact multiple representations of the same person. You can get some real leverage here, maybe five or more ballots per mark. Suppose a few apps are discovered. You have plenty of manpower. If the cops get a few volunteers, the rest will slip by. The only way to stop it is with strict new statutes. Not likely; who wants to disenfranchise the poor? The system, which relies on a basic minimum of civility and trust breaks down. Provisional ballots end up in the stream, unverified. Election officials get blamed for the mess, even as the activists keep the pressure on. Results can then be contested in court, recounts until you win. Fraudulent apps that are caught also help. The widespread publicity serves to undermine public faith in the process, encouraging them to stay home. "What's the use? The game is rigged!"
Your people vote, because you see that they do. Acorn-type orgs. work at the precinct level, alongside the party. The voter then enjoys direct supervision, and you provide verifiable results to the office. You win, and the "undecideds" see this, and go with the winner.
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The Ohio Secy of State Judith Brunnel set up a plan to circumvent Federal laws passed after the 2004 elections - which require each state to review and remove all bogus and duplicate voter registration names
There is a set cutoff date to register and to open Ballots
In Missouri they are so overwhelmed with ACORN’s fakeroo registrations - that they could not get honest citizens registrations recorded on time
Then why didn’t they recruit or hire more people to help get it done? Too logical I guess. Don’t know what qualifications the people have to have either.
Election night and next day is going to be horrific.
The first group isn't going to vote for Obama because they don't exist, to a large extent.
I do know that in the classic Get Out the Vote scenarios that the labor unions run, they have poll watchers who go over the lists of voters to see who hasn't voted yet, and then give that info to others who go out and pick up those voters to make sure they get to the polls and vote. For those state who do not require ID to vote, what's to say that they don't pickup loads of people, give them names from the list as they get off the bus, and that's who they say they are when they go and vote. Then, it's back on the bus and over to the next precinct. Lather, Rinse, Repeat...
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ACORN does strategically timed fakeroo voter registration “dumps”
It is 2-pronged:
1 - Some fraud voters will slip through and be counted for Barack bin Odinga
2 - It halts honest new voters or voters who have moved to a new state or precinct - Thus reducing the numbers of Republicans who can vote
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