Posted on 10/09/2008 10:24:07 AM PDT by NoobRep
This morning, Philadelphia attorney Philip Berg filed a response in opposition to the motion for protective order, a measure intended to stay discovery until after the judge rules on a defense motion to dismiss, filed by Barack Obama and the DNC on Monday.
In the response Berg insists, among other things, that he is not seeking the documents specified in his motion for expedited discovery for any improper purpose, that the information requested through discovery is of extreme importance and a matter of public safety, and argues that Barack Obama and the DNC
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I bet there is no oath of allegiance he would have to have that at age 18 in order to re-establish US citizenship. There probably is no US birth certificate either as he was born in Kenya. I think the way I understand it is that he lost his US citizenship on adoption by an Indonesian but could
regain it at 18 with an oath of allegiance.
If this ends up the way it plays out, then the $64,000 question, eh? Reading through these threads, it's my understanding that he had to renounce his U.S. citizenship in order to obtain the Indonesian. Is this enough of a technicality to deny the ability to meet the Constitutional requirement, since it would mean that he would have to become a naturalized citizen after that fact, as you say, even though he had been previously qualified? This should be decided by the Supreme Court at any rate, put to the justices: shall any natural born U.S. citizen, upon renouncing his citizenship, thereafter re-gaining through the citizenship process, still meet the Constitutional requirement to stand for election as President?
It's that official renunciation that has me thinking no, but I'm not on the Court, so my opinion is only that, my opinion.
Because the law in Hawaii restricts who may obtain such copies, without a court order that is. You basically have to be the person concerned, or a close relative.
My best guess, yes, it is taken for granted. I would tend to think that unless you show some serious evidence that you don't meet the Constitutional requirements, no one really questions it. Look at how we let the carpet-baggers get away with the residence requirement, "Hey, move here today, run for Senate or House tomorrow!"
However this ends up, I do hope it puts into effect some manner of verification for every office, not just the presidency. As with all this voter fraud going on, it looks like people are finally taking a serious interest in this whole business.
Important to remember that Obama-mesiah himself AGGRESSIVELY used legal tactics to have his opponents removed from the ballott.
He was so successful in this regard that:
(a) he had at least four (4) people removed from the ballot(mostly by invalidating signatures on their petitions)
(b) effectively has NEVER run for ANY office opposed
One side notes — one of the people Obama had removed from the ballot in IL was former State Senator Alice Palmer (his former boss and political patron/mentor)— nice way to treat your friends Bambi...
“Maybe he was born a woman?”
Or that he starred in a 80’s sitcom as Urkel
...or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution,...
His worshipers would believe it and not question it at all.
He could challenge the votes for the adoption of the Constitution and claim the alternate clause!
Considering their ability to comprehend simple English via their insistent understanding of Amendment II ... methinks you are not far off the mark.
Obama worshippers would believe it.
I too am beginning to believe he was actually born in Kenya. Even if he wasn’t, he still has the Indonesian citizenship to deal with, so I think he has two major issues here.
Some think this is a red herring, but it’s hard to imagine why he wouldn’t simply produce the legitimate documentation and end the speculation once the issue rose to the level of an actual lawsuit challenging his citizenship. I think there’s a fire at the kernel of all this smoke.
Now the challenge is to make something happen before the election. At least an experienced lawyer is on it.
MM
My guess? There's nothing whatever wrong with it, and they're keeping it under wraps as a matter of strategy.
They're happy to make this a red-herring issue -- even to spend money on lawyers -- because if it ever creates a huge fuss, then they can release it and make the Mr. Bergs of the world look silly.
The net effect would be to taint any other, more serious, questions being raised about Obama.
And if it never gets traction ... well, then there was no reason to release it in the first place.
Perhaps Berg, a huge Hillary supporter, was being held in reserve in case Hillary lost the nomination. I’m sure Berg would never have commenced this lawsuit unless HRC had greenlighted it.
Now this suit is being used as her version of a “Doomsday Machine” to break Barry’s balls.
If that is true, for once, and just this once, I can state that I appreciate her scheming Macchiavellian malevolence and criminality, hahaha.
Exactamundo.
obumpa
Either he was born with a vagina or Frank Marshall Davis is daddy, either way, we lose since it makes him a citizen ; (.
Why isn’t the FEC demanding a full set of docs from both candidates? It seems nobody cares anymore what the requirements of the constitution are.
You miss the major point. He lost his citizenship on adoption in Indonesia.. He would have to re-accept it at majority with an oath of allegiance.
I suspect there are a bunch of bureaucrats sitting around wondering whose responsibility it is to verify the pesky little things like this.
MM (in TX)
Why would you accept the premise that his mother did anything legal or by the books? Where is the proof he was legally adopted in Hawaii or Indonesia? If there is definitive proof, has someone checked all 57 states to ensure he hasn’t resworn an oath of allegiance (back-dated or otherwise)?
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