Posted on 10/09/2008 6:08:22 AM PDT by Perseverando
Edited on 10/09/2008 6:10:20 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Perhaps she should have “coerced” Ayers to have sex with the man also. Just to prove he wasn’t HOMOPHOBIC !!
Just a thought.
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Ayers should face a firing squad for his crimes.
You are correct.
I’m disappointed by some of these comments. The SOB locked the door and wouldn’t let her out.
Sounds like date rape to me.
It’s as simple as this. If the story is true, he wouldn’t let her leave the apartment. There’s no doubt about what this was.
What sort of person are you?
You think that a woman who has said she refuses to do what Ayers ordered, and was barred from escaping, and finally pressured by THREE MEN to lie down on the bed and allow them to attack her, is RAPING the men?
You sound like the men in certain Arab countries who are told by their Imams that if a woman is not covered completely, that they are free to touch or molest her on the street; it would be her sin and not theirs.
He blocked the door - there was a threat. I’m also judging him by a liberal standard.
What sort of person am I? The kind that can read and comprehend what someone has said. And not said.
What sort of person are you that you cannot do that? Here’s the salient statements:
“He said that I had no choice but to do as he said if I wanted to get out of there. He claimed that I wouldn’t sleep with his married roommate because he was black – that I was a bigot.
.....and because he was so effective a guilt-tripper, I also felt I had to prove to him that I wasn’t a bigot. I got up from the couch and walked over to the black roommate’s bed......
“After that I had to go lie down on Bill Ayer’s bed for his brother to screw me. Rick Ayers was a decent person, unlike his brother, and couldn’t go through with it. He started and stopped and let me go. I also thought I had to let Bill screw me but at that point he unbolted the door and I left.”
Did anyone threaten her? No. Did anyone lay a hand on her? No. What was this “force”? SHE DIDN’T WANT TO BE CALLED A BIGOT BECAUSE HER PIMP LAYED GUILT ON HER! Not “THREE MEN”, only one.
Raping three men? No, but that’s not nearly as silly a comment as yours.
No, no, I never said that they put a gun to her head. However, most of the young teen boys that were molested by priests were coerced psychologically too. “I am your Holy Father and G-d wants this to happen” etc.
It is far worse to have been coerced psychologically into rape, because the victim sometimes never realizes that it was, indeed, rape. Alcohol and drugs are also used. Make the victim feel like it was his/her fault all along.
YES, she could have started SCREAMING until they either hurt her or maybe even threw her out the door. She may have pondered that, but felt that it would be worse for her.
Please be understanding with young people put into this horrible position. It is still rape.
“YES, she could have started SCREAMING until they either hurt her or maybe even threw her out the door..”
Did Ron say anyone threatened to hurt her? No. Of course Ayers DID say he might (gasp..gasp) think her a Bigot!
“It is far worse to have been coerced psychologically into rape, because the victim sometimes never realizes that it was, indeed, rape.”
But not as bad as being thrown out the door. Right.
There just isn't any rape in this tale no matter how hard you want it be. If Ron's a victim of anything it is of having a moral obtuseness that your definition of rape would elevate to a child-like innocence.
Ron, an adult, didn't have to be brilliant, just not morally stupid. And morally stupid she was by her own account. She wasn't drafted into the sexual revolution, she joined up.
"Vote for my crypto-Muslim pink diaper baby candidate or you're an out-of-touch racist"--that's working right now. It's the same con game played by the same evil man. Bill Ayers and his friends in the mainstream media are saying to America, get on the bed Obama has made for you, spread 'em and let him mount you. Judging by the (admittedly ACORN-registration-weighted) polls, America is seriously thinking about doing just that. And if she does, America will be scarred forever.
This article is effective on so many levels, and it needs to be passed around.
So according to your analysis the American voter is like some dumb wannabe liberal white chick. And:
The American voter will submit because they're being harangued and simply cannot escape to either the other candidate or none of the above. And:
You're “Judging by the (admittedly ACORN-registration-weighted) polls, America is seriously thinking about doing just that.” plus:
Except the polls are not to trusted since they are weighted down with ACORNS, you say. And:
You must think most voters (who can and will vote for whom they wish) are as delusional as “Miss That Was Terrible So Whose Next In Line?” So:
“This article is effective on so many levels,” is nonsense, “and it needs to be passed around.” perhaps as a precautionary tale to those who lie down with a dog and his kennel mate and his “decent” brother.
Good grief, man!
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