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To: livius

I think thats why the PUMAs are still livid (they are Dem insiders on local levels and they saw what happened in their own backyards). Fraud. If Hill/Bill and their machine is tied to this...well, G-d bless them. The enemy of enemy is my friend. Maybe we will see Hillary ‘shocked and dismayed?’ Maybe that will be her sequeway to come out and endorse McCain?


109 posted on 10/09/2008 5:35:32 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Who do you want in the White House...the Mommy or the Commie?)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Well, Hillary and McCain have never hid their friendship, that’s for sure...

In my last post above this I spoke of this as well. Hillary cannot be happy about having her party STOLEN from her (which I firmly believe it was). Actually, Bill Clinton alluded to this years ago when I saw him on Oprah (lol). He spoke of the fact that there really ARE “Bad Guys” in our government, and it didn’t sound like your regular partisan stuff either... It was more than that and I think this part of their party was what he was alluding to - the COMMUNIST wing.

I really have no doubts that they have also infiltrated the GOP (and most likely every other party). This was one of the planks of the Communist Manifesto from back in the 50s. We are seeing the results of this right now and Hillary was the first “major casualty” of their takeover of the Dem party (which was easier to infiltrate and takeover due to their socialist tendencies in the first place). If they have infiltrated the GOP, it would be a lot harder to spot because they are probably more “undercover”. I don’t even think the “RINOS” are the ones we would worry about in this. As I said, I think in order to be effective it would be more of a case of something like a mole or a spy, and not creating open dissension within the GOP.

Now whether she is just trying to get back the power she lost within the party, or she really is acting patriotic I guess remains to be seen. I do however think that despite their love for socialism they do also have a desire to see America strong. And, they do know that things like voter fraud, etc... will damage our country to the point that nothing would ever be the same.

There are good Dems within the group of Hillary supporters - I think some are just deluded into thinking socialism could still work under the RIGHT leadership. That can be dealt with through education and such - showing how “socialism” will ALWAYS lead to communism (many younger Dems don’t realize this). I’d also like to add that there are a lot of OLDER Democrats (like my Mom was) that ARE patriotic, and I don’t think they realize how far from the true stance of the Democrat Party (the OLD Democrats) it has gone... I think a lot of them ARE Hillary’s supporters.

These other people - the die-hard Communists? Well, I’m afraid the only thing they understand is violence, and if Obama doesn’t win, I think that’s what we’re headed for, and I know I’m not alone in worrying about that either...


165 posted on 10/09/2008 6:37:24 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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