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Nobody’s dummy (Camille Paglia on Sarah Palin)(Surprising!)
Salon ^ | 10/9/2008 | Camille Paglia

Posted on 10/08/2008 7:59:51 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: UCANSEE2
Some of us are hoping he serves a couple of terms, in the klinker.

With Barney Frank as a cellmate.

42 posted on 10/08/2008 8:38:24 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: ketsu
Naaah... history is cyclic. Any society with overwhelming economic power and no military threats turns to debauchery and hedonism very quickly. It's an organic process. There are plenty of community organizers and various other sundry hippies but they're really not nearly as influential and cult like as you think.

Let me restate that for you ...

It is almost a law of history that the same wealth that generates a civilization announces its decay. For wealth produces ease as well as art; it softens a people to the ways of luxury and peace, and invites invasion from stronger arms and hungrier mouths.

- Will Durant,'The Story of Civilization, Volume I.'
43 posted on 10/08/2008 8:41:08 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Clock King

She’s is voting Obama because she has the antiwar and has the misguided view that he is too! She is a self-described libertarian.


44 posted on 10/08/2008 8:43:02 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: markomalley

Not really surprising. Although I disagree with Paglia on many issues, I do respect her thoughts on many.
She has been a Palin defender from the beginning, against the so called elite feminists and the elite media as well.
She has written several columns on this.
I am one of her readers. She invites debate without having to ridicule or put down.


45 posted on 10/08/2008 8:43:54 PM PDT by donnab (Will the real Obama please stand up?)
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To: GOP Golfer

ping


46 posted on 10/08/2008 8:45:57 PM PDT by GOP Golfer
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To: anniegetyourgun

I think it was meant as a laudatory comment. Not racist — just descriptive.


47 posted on 10/08/2008 8:48:35 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: markomalley

Camille Paglia is the real deal. She bows to nobody, and she reads nobody’s “talking points”.
Her support of the empty suit Obama is a little disappointing, though.


48 posted on 10/08/2008 8:49:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

You’ll excuse me if I’m trying to fight fire with fire these days....


49 posted on 10/08/2008 8:49:39 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: markomalley
Something has gone seriously wrong with Democratic ideology, which seems to have become a candied set of holier-than-thou bromides attached like tutti-frutti to a quivering green Jell-O mold of adolescent sentimentality.

yep, yep, yep, and yep.

50 posted on 10/08/2008 8:49:47 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: sandyeggo
My point was that he was losing both visually and on points. It was a bad night for Biden.

He looked bad, and he was even worse in the post analysis of who got what right and wrong.

Palin missed several opportunities to put ANY daylight between the Bush administration and the McCain/Palin candidacy and they had to know that was going to be a line of attack. And every politician answers the question they want to answer, but few of them openly admit it!

But Biden tried to prove his down home bonifieds talking about Home Depot and a restaurant that has been closed for ten years. He made up history in Lebanon, recreated McCain's legislative record, contradicted his Presidential candidates policy of Presidential meetings without preconditions, and followed it up by rewriting the Constitution to ex the VP out of Article II while making Article I the Executive article.

Bad night for Biden. If anyone scored it for Biden their point formula is all wrong. You SUBTRACT points for ridiculous statements.

51 posted on 10/08/2008 8:51:39 PM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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To: anniegetyourgun

I understand what you mean.


53 posted on 10/08/2008 8:53:26 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: sandyeggo
Camille Paglia seems to me the true, intellectual answer to Rodney King's famous question, "can't we all just get along?" She gets it, is quick to point out "feminists"' obsession with abortion and has all but called it as murder, and shown that there are different kinds of femininism that should be respected by "feminists". I've never met her or heard her in person, but she strikes me as someone I'd respect and like even if I disagreed. Of course, I may be biased because one of her columns introduced me to the joys of Verka Serduchka . . .
54 posted on 10/08/2008 8:54:45 PM PDT by hadrian
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To: markomalley

Camille is one of the few libs that is fun to read. Not a braindead robot.

Pray for W, Lady Palin and Our Troops


55 posted on 10/08/2008 8:57:05 PM PDT by bray (It's the Corruption Stupid)
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To: markomalley

Camille Paglia is undoubtedly a very gifted writer and a far reaching thinker on the leading edge of Feminism...I love her writing though i may not always agree with her views..Her intelectualism is always bright, honest, passionate, and on the mark...Bless her Italian roots, gotta love this lady for her intellectual honesty...Now if she could just change a few things, one or two....

And thank you Mrs Dingman and Mrs Rafuse, wherever you are...


56 posted on 10/08/2008 8:58:01 PM PDT by billmor (Friday:Red Shirt Day- silent no more..,McCain and Palin-the right team for '08)
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To: markomalley

Paglia needs to reexamine her motivations. On one hand, she savages academicians who are scurrilous pseudo-intellectuals, yet at the same time she embraces the Democrat party and their grotesque and repeated failures. If anything, Paglia should be fiercely independent, rejecting both parties.

It is not Todd Palin she is admiring, for he is just a piece of Sarah Palin’s revitalized feminism. But Paglia should examine what should be a modern adage, that “when women stand up, men sit down.”

Does Paglia expect a powerful woman from a meeching, hypocritical leader of NOW, more concerned with leftist politics than womens’ rights? Or the fanatical, arrogant Hillary Clinton, who is convinced that female power is found from dominating and crushing her enemies (real and imagined)?

Condoleeza Rice is far closer, yet has sacrificed her life for her mastery. More “Vulcan” as she is thought of in Washington, than human. Not everybody can be a genius.

Enter Sarah Palin, reflections of whom can be seen in many of America’s soccer moms. A college degree and a job, but children and everything else. Fortunate indeed to be married to a Todd Palin type man. Sometimes called “supermoms”, properly, they should be known as “superwomen”.

Husband and children optional. While not neglected, they are another part of a masterful woman’s life. A woman who can camp out and fend for herself, who can shoot a moose, drive a motorcycle, deal with a harsh winter, run for governor, etc. Now that is a feminist, and why so many women look up to her—because they want to have a life something like hers, perhaps less the moose.

She can hold political opinions very different from theirs, but she is clear and honest, not like the muddy men who speak in scripted and opaque babble. They know what she is, that she is not a fake.

And what is Obama? He is nothing BUT a fake. An “ackempucky”, the southern expression meaning something like “a bunch of unknown leftovers thrown into a bowl and stirred up, often with a jelly-like consistency.”

In his case, some falafel, some poi, a broken up Chicago hot dog with the works and plenty of mustard, some red cabbage, chitterlings, and a bowl full of US Senate bean soup with extra pork and saffron.

Put it in a blender with unflavored gelatin. Add hope and change.


57 posted on 10/08/2008 9:01:15 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: sandyeggo
I guess he said it so convincingly that Paglia didn't notice he was wrong. I follow this stuff like its my hobby, and I know my way around the Constitution.

It would be like if Paglia and I were listening to a debate about the history of feminism and some old professor got it all wrong (openly lying or just confused) while some young professor was more stylish but said things with less authority. I might think that the older woman outscored the younger on points, but the younger won on style. Paglia would shake her head at me in wonderment that I didn't recognize just how wrong the old professor was and how they got everything backwards.

58 posted on 10/08/2008 9:04:18 PM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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To: markomalley

I read where Tina Fey asked for someone to please tell her when she can stop doing this “ woman.” Well, to Tina I would say...Tina Dear, this is the United States of America. No one has twisted your arm to play Sarah Palin and no one can STOP you from playing Sarah Palin and no one can MAKE you play Sarah Palin. So, if you truly do not want to do her impersonation because you disagree or dislike her then...just do it. Oh...what’s that you say? You like the fame and the money? Oh yeah, that would come first before your own convictions....I forgot!


59 posted on 10/08/2008 9:06:17 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: markomalley

I read where Tina Fey asked for someone to please tell her when she can stop doing this “ woman.” Well, to Tina I would say...Tina Dear, this is the United States of America. No one has twisted your arm to play Sarah Palin and no one can STOP you from playing Sarah Palin and no one can MAKE you play Sarah Palin. So, if you truly do not want to do her impersonation because you disagree or dislike her then...just do it. Oh...what’s that you say? You like the fame and the money? Oh yeah, that would come first before your own convictions....I forgot!


60 posted on 10/08/2008 9:06:36 PM PDT by cubreporter
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