Posted on 10/07/2008 9:42:16 PM PDT by andrew roman
This line is so tired. The Founders would be incensed by this specious argument. We vote FOR someone who best represents our views, that's ALL. there is to it. We don't play games with polls and votes 'against' candidates.
McCain is de facto losing conservative voters. HE is responsible for a loss to Obama, not me. Voters are free to choose whoever they want and cannot be held individually accountable like society as a whole can.
LOL
Glad I am not the only one who noticed that Ingrid woman
that was most certainly planted, I guarantee she has no idea about greens jobs or going green.
She looked like she didn’t have a clue about what she was asking
Ah, and I forgot to mention that McCain taking a dive in this election is a twofer - Sarah Palin will return to Alaska as damaged goods, and never darken the national stage again - thus wiping out the last best chance Conservatism has.
This works to Obama's advantage. If there's no perceived difference on issues, it becomes all about personality and stage appeal.
I do not remember one question obama answered directly and Brokaw just let obama keep harping on
I have always said that without that sonorous sounding voice, and somewhat telegenic youthful appearance, and
selfconfidently casual way of carrying himself, Obama would be indistinguishable from other Dems of the last 35-40 years who have already disgraced themselves. Oh, all of the above , PLUS , infusions of money from God-knows-where or God-knows-from-whom......it may be revealed only too late, if he makes it in, just how suspect his “funding” is.
OldArmy, please, with all due respect, I’m not sure whether we even watched the same debate. Generally speaking, McCain was the optimistic candidate. Optimistic about what America can do. Obama was very pessimistic, his speaking was hesitant and broken and quite frankly, slickly overcautious.
Granted the 300 billion was an issue I also disagreed with but we’re talking about winning the middle ground and the latest polls were showing that people were more in favor of the bailout on the second go-around.
But McCain being too wordy? McCain was done before the little yellow light came on virtually the whole night. At times, yes, he did speak beyond what was necessary to get his point across but his performance was no where near the running off at the yap that Obama was guilty of. McCain did have one overrun into the red light but Obama was the reason Brokaw kept commenting about time. Obama ran past the red light on just about every question.
Oboredom seems to have ADD cause he can’t seem to stay on subject. He meanders around the world for 20 mins on a simple yes/no. Bizarre.
Pray for W, McCuda and Our Troops
Do the rest of us a favor, GO AWAY until after the election, we’ll win without your vote and without you trolling here to depress the conservative vote. I don’t care who you are you are trolling dissent.
Lame, very lame. Can't stand up to the argument so you tell me to go away and call names. No, I didn't drink the Kool-Aid that's evidently been passed around to sucker conservatives into voting for McCain.
McCain's the one who's responsible for depressing the conservative vote. For God's sake, he just proposed a $300 billion plan to buy up people's bad mortgages! This is Juan McAmnesty for crying out loud.
Assuage yourself with your wishful thinking and false statements about our nation's founders.
The fact is, if you don't vote for McCain, you are voting for Obama.
Period.
Thanks.
A lie.
Technically, you are correct. If you do not vote that cannot be counted as a vote...for anyone.
Realistically, if you are in a swing state and do not vote where you would normally have voted for McCain...you improve Obama’s chances of winning.
If you are in a state that is pretty much locked up, as I am, it will not make a difference.
Once caveat...Remember Florida!
With 27 days left in this election, anything short of McCain coming straight out and calling Obama and anyone voting for him an out and out socialist and enumerating a long list of socialist beliefs and works that Obama espouses and supports will fall short come election day.
I'm not holding my breath for McCain to say anything so truthful. Other than picking Sarah as his VP, he's been the big disappointment I expected him to be. McQueeg will set the GOP and conservative goals back 8 years, if this country lasts that long under Obama. I'll cast my vote for him come November 4th, but it's really a vote for Sarah and against socialism.
I hope you are right but the economy trumps EVERYTHING right now.
McCain MUST address this at every speech - with a package of reforms / solid / and talk about getting people elected to Congress to get these measures passed:
Tax cuts for individuals and businesses - (but this should happen BEFORE Jan 2009 - still talk about it and why this will help the economy.
Energy financial security - drill asap
And there have got to be some other ECONOMIC incentives in his plan - free market- that will work - that must be discussed along with why putting a taxer and spender into office at this time is like pouring gasoline onto a raging fire.
No, actually true. Anyone who doesn't believe a vote for Barr or similar 3rd party candidate isn't a vote for Obama doesn't remember recent history well. In '92 to the Perot vote took away plenty from G.H.W. Bush to get Clinton elected with just 43% of the vote, in '00 the Nader vote siphoned enough from Gore to elect G.W. Bush.
I watched about the first five minutes of the debate, getting through the first question and answers. Obama came on with his usual Marxist attack on Bush and the markets. McCain replied with drivel I’ve already forgotten when he could have smashed Obama out of the room by giving the real history of the mortgage crisis and how Obama and the DemonRats are to blame with the CRA and the abuses of the Clinton administration. After that, I realized it was a waste of time and went to bed.
white guilt
Obama’s fumbling of the question about Russia showed how much he can look like a deer in the headlights. It was disasterous.
bump
Been there, heard that, got the t-shirt. All year long, especially when the crossover voters in winner-take-all states killed off the campaigns of the five Republicans (Hunter, Tancredo, Thompson, Giuliani, Romney) who I would have enthusiastically supported over McCain, before I ever got a chance to vote.
Not now, nor ever in American history, has the two-party system been given a right to all the votes.
Still less so the one and one-half party system we have today.
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