Posted on 10/07/2008 8:31:10 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
You Guys Are Nuts [Andy McCarthy]
We have a disaster here which is what you should expect when you delegate a non-conservative to make the conservative (nay, the American) case. We can parse it eight ways to Sunday, but I think the commentary is missing the big picture.
Here's what Obama needed to do tonight: Convince the country that he was an utterly safe, conventional, centrist politician who may have leftward leanings but will do the right thing when the crunch comes.
Now, as the night went along, did you get the impression that Obama comes from the radical Left? Did you sense that he funded Leftist causes to the tune of tens of millions of dollars? Would you have guessed that he's pals with a guy who brags about bombing the Pentagon? Would you have guessed that he helped underwrite raging anti-Semites? Would you come away thinking, "Gee, he's proposing to transfer nearly a trillion dollars of wealth to third-world dictators through the UN"?
Nope. McCain didn't want to go there. So Obama comes off as just your average Center-Left politician. Gonna raise your taxes a little, gonna negotiate reasonably with America's enemies; gonna rely on our very talented federal courts to fight terrorists and solve most of America's problems; gonna legalize millions of hard-working illegal immigrants.
McCain? He comes off as Center-Right .. or maybe Center-Left ... but, either way, deeply respectful of Obama despite their policy quibbles.
Great. Memo to McCain Campaign: Someone is either a terrorist sympathizer or he isn't; someone is either disqualified as a terrorist sympathizer or he's qualified for public office. You helped portray Obama as a clealy qualified presidential candidate who would fight terrorists.
If that's what the public thinks, good luck trying to win this thing.
With due respect, I think tonight was a disaster for our side. I'm dumbfounded that no one else seems to think so. Obama did everything he needed to do, McCain did nothing he needed to do. What am I missing
McCain explained very carefully in the beginning that you have to examine the record as well as listen to the rhetoric before you decide. I think he should have closed with a with a reminder of that key point.
Obama sounds very reasonable but his record does not support him.
to: fightinJAG
"Shut up, McCarthy! Have a little discipline to use brain before opening mouth."
So you think McCarthy is giving up some National Security secret here by stating the obvious? As much as I wish it were otherwise, and I most certainly wish it were, it is what it is. McCain's performance tonight was so lame as to be either intentionally throwing the election or haplessly incompetent, you can choose between the two, but it's one of those.
All we have left is for Palin to win this in spite of McCain, because Johnny's doing nothing for his own cause.
I hope McCain has a plan becasue I didnt see it tonight...FWIW, the Obaminals will open up a more solid lead unless someone starts to unload like Palin has been doing and the 527’s.....something!
I didn’t like the format of the debate. I thought the questions were too filtered down. McCain did well once he settled down. Obama talked in circles. However, I wish the people had more freedom in their questions, and that McCain would have gone after him more.
I don’t care, this kind of whining is ridiculous, self-absorbed and counter productive.
Second Hand Lion
McCain sucked tonight.
Obama stunk, as usual.
This was one boring debate and McCain did himself no good.
Karl Rove and Charles Krauthammer are not chopped liver.
They both came out and said McCain did well and, more importantly, pointed to several ways in which McCain laid the groundwork to take over the discussion in the days ahead.
Now I’m waiting to see what Dick Morris says. Everyone else is just talking points garbage.
I just went and checked, and the post IS from Andy McCarthy, a regular contributor to NR and a generally solid conservative. He may be wrong on whether McCain is dead or not, but he makes some valid points about what McCain has to do to win this thing.
I’m voting McCain because the only good Commie is a dead Commie.
Me racist I guess.
So, if you had a $1,000,000 adjustable rate and the home is now worth $300,000, either the bank or the government would lose $700,000 in cash to help this person (possible one of 5 million illegals) keep their home.
That's McLame.
I heard Obama say he would fine me if my kids don’t have health insurance.
I heard him say I’d get fined if I don’t get health insurance for my small business employees.
I heard him say we shouldn’t take our kid to the ER for an asthma attack.
He said he’d sit down with loonie dictators without preconditions.
I learned he’ll announce his military plans prior to implementing them.
I heard him say we need more regulation of the economy.
I heard he planned to consult his proud American wife Michelle if he didn’t know something.
I heard he votes straight party line.
He voted for every tax increase that came up, while pushing some idea of lowering taxes.
I heard he considers health care a right. A RIGHT. Like, the right to assemble or bear arms.
On McCain’s end, I heard he wanted to buy up and re-negotiate mortgages on houses that have dipped heavily in value.
McCain also listed by name non-partisan watchdog groups for those who don’t just want to listen to rhetoric.
So no, I don’t think Obama came off as a centrist.
Obama dirt ping
I agree with you para-ord.45.
Seemed like McCain was not fully in the game.
He lost several opportunities to SLAM Obama with what Obama had just said. Didn’t happen.
McCain stuck to his script.
Pretty conservative approach - I guess thats why I see so many comments on how the debate was “boring”.
By the way, got a couple ParaOrd .45s myself.
Horrible choice of an article to post, any conservative who writes this kind of stuff should be required to wear a skirt.
I agree. Obama cannot win. Obama stinks, and McCain stinks, but McCain stinks less, and at least he has a decent running mate. One thing I'm getting sick and tired of is the idiot child faction here on FR who runs around and whines about McCain's socialism, and who then act like they want to get Obama elected so he can take us down the path faster.
Really? In what areas was Rove talking about? Thanks.
His take on it is pretty much the truth.
“I’m dumbfounded that no one else seems to think so.”
I disagree. You don’t seem founded at all.
Another one.
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