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You Guys Are Nuts (Face it, McCain is Toast)
http://www.nationalreview.com/ ^ | October 07, 2008 | Andy McCarthy

Posted on 10/07/2008 8:31:10 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45

You Guys Are Nuts [Andy McCarthy]

We have a disaster here — which is what you should expect when you delegate a non-conservative to make the conservative (nay, the American) case. We can parse it eight ways to Sunday, but I think the commentary is missing the big picture.

Here's what Obama needed to do tonight: Convince the country that he was an utterly safe, conventional, centrist politician who may have leftward leanings but will do the right thing when the crunch comes.

Now, as the night went along, did you get the impression that Obama comes from the radical Left? Did you sense that he funded Leftist causes to the tune of tens of millions of dollars? Would you have guessed that he's pals with a guy who brags about bombing the Pentagon? Would you have guessed that he helped underwrite raging anti-Semites? Would you come away thinking, "Gee, he's proposing to transfer nearly a trillion dollars of wealth to third-world dictators through the UN"?

Nope. McCain didn't want to go there. So Obama comes off as just your average Center-Left politician. Gonna raise your taxes a little, gonna negotiate reasonably with America's enemies; gonna rely on our very talented federal courts to fight terrorists and solve most of America's problems; gonna legalize millions of hard-working illegal immigrants.

McCain? He comes off as Center-Right .. or maybe Center-Left ... but, either way, deeply respectful of Obama despite their policy quibbles.

Great. Memo to McCain Campaign: Someone is either a terrorist sympathizer or he isn't; someone is either disqualified as a terrorist sympathizer or he's qualified for public office. You helped portray Obama as a clealy qualified presidential candidate who would fight terrorists.

If that's what the public thinks, good luck trying to win this thing.

With due respect, I think tonight was a disaster for our side. I'm dumbfounded that no one else seems to think so. Obama did everything he needed to do, McCain did nothing he needed to do. What am I missing


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KEYWORDS: 2008debates; andrewmccarthy; mccain; obama; rino
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To: Para-Ord.45

Objectively, you’re a CANADIAN posting an article that will only attract trolls and gloom and doomers, go post it at Free Dominion. We’ve got a communist who needs defeating.


81 posted on 10/07/2008 8:48:23 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Absolutely NOT. THREE Supreme Court judges are due to retire , all of them from the left-do you really want Obama replacing them? MCCain would NEVER choose the baby-killers who vote to allow infanticide of babies who survive abortions, Obama will. If you can live with that, don’t vote.


82 posted on 10/07/2008 8:48:42 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: ConservativeMind
The only way I would support this is if all the money is stripped from those executives that stole millions and all the campaign cash that was donated from them for the last 10 years is forced from the twisted little thieving hands of congress critters. That money can be used for these “re-negotiations” and I will cheer wildly.
83 posted on 10/07/2008 8:48:55 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (NOBAMA - it is for our future)
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To: mnehrling

I believe McCarthy has it right. The debate was a total dud. McCain needed a game changer and didn’t get it. Actually, he screwed the pooch by trying to out-liberal Obama on buying mortgages.


84 posted on 10/07/2008 8:48:55 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Para-Ord.45
We can start early voting on Oct. 20th. and as much as I dislike McCain I am going to CRAWL to vote if I must to keep that Marxist arrogant piece of crap, Obama, out of office.
85 posted on 10/07/2008 8:49:17 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Para-Ord.45

I support Mccain...just gave again today.

But he ain’t winning right now and it don’t look good

damn shame....best VP nod since Jefferson


86 posted on 10/07/2008 8:49:17 PM PDT by wardaddy (i can see now why despots always purge the media first.....if I had a rocket launcher)
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To: Para-Ord.45
We can start early voting on Oct. 20th. and as much as I dislike McCain I am going to CRAWL to vote if I must to keep that Marxist arrogant piece of crap, Obama, out of office.
87 posted on 10/07/2008 8:49:34 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Para-Ord.45
This was not the holy-grail of win or lose tonight.

as our next president would say, "Patience my friends".

There are still many days to go before election day and a new revelation of awareness of the exposure of the evil doer B. Hussein Osama.

88 posted on 10/07/2008 8:49:42 PM PDT by Rapunzel (Never forget Fallujah..S. Helvenston RIP.....Sarah...Sarah...Sarah loves America)
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To: Para-Ord.45

I disagree with this premise. McCain actually came across to “Joe-six pack” as more knowledgeable and more credible on the economy tonight, I thought. Those predisposed to like Obama still do, and those predisposed to like McCain still do. Those who don’t know yet, I am convinced they won’t vote.

The real voters available to McCain are the 25% of white, blue collard democrats uncomfortable with Obama because he is liberal or black or inexperienced or not a Clinton. Those are the voters McCain can get, and should get. You get them with center-right arguments on fiscal policy, conservative culture issues and strong talk on national defense.


89 posted on 10/07/2008 8:49:49 PM PDT by wastedpotential (Proud to be in McCain country in the Buckeye State)
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To: ConservativeMind

Then quit.


90 posted on 10/07/2008 8:49:55 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Yes it is a total disaster.

Odinga.....Obama’s marching Jugend wearing camouflage pledging personal loyalty to him......coerced indoctrination of our children by a compulsory youth corps a la Public Allies.....Sharia Law.....A non-native-born citizen in the White House.....confiscation of firearms....need I say more?

You sound like all those Jews in Germany in the 30’s who refused to leave because “Hitler won’t be so bad.....”


91 posted on 10/07/2008 8:50:29 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.")
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To: Lloyd227

Do you think we should win this or not?

If so, what use is it with all the negativity? Sure, we need to be realistic about what happened. That is completely different from being FATALISTIC.

It’s ridiculous to think this was a game-changer that went either Obambi’s or McCain’s way. The good news for us, though, if people can’t over how they “just aren’t feeling it tonight,” is that McCain laid a lot of good groundwork for taking control of the discussion in the days ahead. He also, in my mind, laid several traps for the Obambi campaign that they will not be able to resist stepping in.

But whether you agree with that or not, how in the world is taking no time for reflection whatsoever and posting some adolescent “crying in my beer” piece helpful to either the public discussion or the cause of conservatism?

If someone wants to pop off, join a live thread, don’t push the “send” button on an ill-conceived rant.


92 posted on 10/07/2008 8:50:32 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Fly the flag!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Power is the chief preoccupation of the Democratic Party and those who are behind Obama. Distrusting the individual, because this is what threatens their power. The politic speak of government giving the “people” something is really about giving power to the government and distrust of the individual.

We value what it means to be an individual. We are preoccupied with the individual as the measure of freedom. The individual’s strength of spirit is something important.

The Democratic Party of today is about bringing fear to us, and telling us we have no strength – they are actually attacking our strength of spirit.

The individual is up against many powerful interests. Because the individual’s strength of spirit must at least keep pace with the expansion of bureaucratic, economic and scientific power, which without our spirit we as individuals would be beaten into a robot slave against these interests.

The fact of the matter is the Democratic Party represents those type of interests who are against the individual, and the face of those interests is the government.

On the outcome of this race between the individual and power depends the future of modern civilization.

And tonight I feel very sad.

I think America is about the to make a horrific mistake in judgment.

I think Americans, those who are going to be the cause of this, should also pay the consequences – which they will sooner than they think due to their own mistakes. No one will have to punish them, it will be the government itself of which they are surrendering their individual freedom to for bread which will punish them.

It wasn’t Wall Street that did this to them.

Really, too many Americans are doing it to themselves, and now it is going to be very bad for them sooner than they think upon their own doing.

Again I say, now we need ask ourselves and have a real conversation with ourselves, what we need to do to align with our own, with our values, and families, and decide where we can go for our own country again – because it won’t be the politicians who are going to pull the rabbit out of the hat this time.

It won’t be McCain, now. So how about we start thinking about what we are going to do on our own.


93 posted on 10/07/2008 8:50:32 PM PDT by Brian_Baldwin
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To: Para-Ord.45

Considering the stock market is way down, and we don’t know where the bottom is, McCain is doing remarkably well. Obama should be way ahead.


94 posted on 10/07/2008 8:50:41 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

I think the game changer was when McCain pointed out, on the tax issue, that Obama could write legislation tomorrow to cut taxes, but he doesn’t, his actual record (versus his words) was to raise taxes... he hit the point home (if the media picks up on it) that Obama will tell you anything to buy your votes, like a used car salesman.


95 posted on 10/07/2008 8:50:59 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: ConservativeMind

He defended Johnny Sutton.


96 posted on 10/07/2008 8:51:06 PM PDT by Perdogg (Vice President Sarah H Palin - Make it happen !!!!)
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To: atc23

Thanks for your vote for Obama.


97 posted on 10/07/2008 8:51:22 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.")
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To: Para-Ord.45

Actually the NRO will probably be doing more and more articles like this.

This increases the numbers of links back to the NRO, and affects their page views, search engine rankings, and advertising revenue.


98 posted on 10/07/2008 8:51:27 PM PDT by o2bfree
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To: Para-Ord.45
McCarthy is dead wrong.

This was another sucker punch by McCain -- this time, not against Obama, but against the MSM.

They were loaded for bear to accuse him of being an unsympathetic, angry white man (hint of racism) and definitely "out of touch".

So all the questions at first were Obama softballs on "how bad does the economy suck".

Obama was too flustered over Ayers to respond coherently at first, while McCain staggers around like the old man from a laxative commercial. See, I'm your harmless old grandpa, not a hater.

Then in the second half of the event, when they get to foreign policy, Obama is shaky and McCain castrates him on Israel, Pockt-stan, and genocide.

Why aren't you screaming from the ROOFTOPS that WW II *was* our response to the Holocaust?

Cheers!

99 posted on 10/07/2008 8:51:43 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Are you threatening to shoot me? What are you saying?


100 posted on 10/07/2008 8:52:01 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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