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Will Obama run into a 'Bradley effect' at the polls?
cbsmarketwatch.com ^ | 10/6/08 | Russ Britt

Posted on 10/06/2008 6:07:02 PM PDT by lasereye

LOS ANGELES (MarketWatch) - It's a question that comes up whenever anyone of African-American descent is a candidate for office, and this year is no exception: is the so-called "Bradley effect" going to play a role in the 2008 presidential race?

Many pollsters doubt it, and think there's an even more fundamental question to be asked - whether there ever was such a phenomenon. If there was, they seriously doubt that with all the time that has passed since the late Tom Bradley lost a close gubernatorial race in California 26 years ago - despite being ahead in late polls - that it will play a significant role when the time comes to pull the lever for Barack Obama or John

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KEYWORDS: 2008; bradleyeffect; election; muslim; obama; sleeper; terrorist
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1 posted on 10/06/2008 6:07:03 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: lasereye

I don’t know about Bradley, BUT he might run into the Osama Effect.


2 posted on 10/06/2008 6:09:34 PM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush (Today, July 16th I no longer donate money for Israel)
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To: lasereye

How about the “terrorist connection” effect?


3 posted on 10/06/2008 6:10:01 PM PDT by nobamanada (No Way, No How, No Hussein)
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To: lasereye

Its already been proven he has a bradley effect, he’s overpolled in practically poll during the primary by about 4%.

That was just between democrats.It will be worse in the GE.

So it does exist.


4 posted on 10/06/2008 6:10:55 PM PDT by sunmars
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To: lasereye

The Bradley Effect is merely an imaginary phenomenom to cover up the fact that pollsters try to sway voters with incorrect polls.


5 posted on 10/06/2008 6:11:11 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: nobamanada

How about the Odinga effect?


6 posted on 10/06/2008 6:11:15 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: lasereye

No need to wonder; just look at the results of the primaries, where Barry underperformed his polling in several instances.


7 posted on 10/06/2008 6:11:18 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (This is no time to go wobbly.)
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To: lasereye
I think there is a Bradley effect...only I call it intimidated-by-a-liberal effect.

If someone I suspect is a Dem calls me for an opinion or a statement of my intent, I'm not going to tell him McCain's my choice. I'll say I don't know. I don't trust these guys. They're thugs and they've got my name and phone #.

It's my belief that it's more likely that a Dem will key a car with a Pub sticker than the reverse. The Dems think that sheer volume of the shrill invective and hysteria can make us fall into line.

9 posted on 10/06/2008 6:11:19 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: lasereye; All

Yes.

Bradley (black) lost to his Republican challenger (white) in 1982, and Wilder (black) lost in 1989 to his Republican challenger (white).

Both Bradley and Wilder were ahead in several polls (and for quite some time ) before those elections. Both lost in the general election.

The Bradley Effect cannot be measured in Dem primaries. It takes a general election to show it. Thats when Independents and Repubs come into play.


10 posted on 10/06/2008 6:11:24 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: lasereye

I hope so.


11 posted on 10/06/2008 6:11:37 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: lasereye

Everytime Obama-nation is under attack, the MSM brings up the Bradley effect to GOTV. It’s nothing more than a GOTV tactis for liberals. Last time they did it, Mccain was up 4 in Gallup DT.


12 posted on 10/06/2008 6:11:44 PM PDT by AmericanGirlRising
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To: lasereye

Polls, the ones made much of by MSM, are designed to pull public opinion.

Since they do not represent reality, there is no reason to expect voting outcome to be close to the polls.
So, in my opinion, The Bradley Effect is overrated. It was probably invented by the LA Times to cover their deceitfulness in the campaign.

Plus, I lie to pollsters and urge everyone else to follow, since it further erodes the power of MSM.


13 posted on 10/06/2008 6:11:53 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

...The Dem primaries did not have many primaries in which Repubs and Ind’s could vote.


14 posted on 10/06/2008 6:12:50 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Wilder won.


15 posted on 10/06/2008 6:13:28 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: lasereye

The “Bradley” effect might be worth 4 points.

But I would guess the “Anti-American”, “terrorist buddy” might be more than 4 points. Call me crazy.


16 posted on 10/06/2008 6:13:36 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA ("I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction" Obama, from Au)
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To: lasereye

The biggest problem Obama has is oversampling of urban areas which is where I think the so called Bradley effect comes from. Polls to be accurate need to achieve a sample that is representative.


17 posted on 10/06/2008 6:13:55 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: lasereye
It's a given that 20% of the white Democrats will never vote for a black man even if they agree with him on everything.

If that were not so we'd have a black Republican governor in Ohio and a black Republican senator in Maryland.

At the same time many people are so irate at pollsters they refuse to answer. This is taken as a non-response and is deleted from the sample base. I think the white Democrats who will not vote for Obama because of race are included in the non-responses.

18 posted on 10/06/2008 6:14:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush

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19 posted on 10/06/2008 6:14:52 PM PDT by Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)
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To: sunmars
Its already been proven he has a bradley effect, he’s overpolled in practically poll during the primary by about 4%.

I don't think that was true across the board.

20 posted on 10/06/2008 6:15:06 PM PDT by lasereye
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