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David Mamet: Why I Am No Longer a 'Brain-Dead Liberal'
The Village Voice ^ | 03/11/08 | David Mamet

Posted on 10/06/2008 5:15:11 AM PDT by Reaganesque

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I read about this article on another thread and sought it out. I was very interested in what it had to say and I must say that Mr. Mamet's insights into Liberalism and his subsequent conversion to Conservatism are fascinating. I think I'll send this to my Liberal son and see what he thinks. Its long but, a great read.
1 posted on 10/06/2008 5:15:12 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Reaganesque
For a very entertaining and poignant conversion story see: HERITAGE FOUNDATION: "How Modern Liberals Think" by Evan Sayet
2 posted on 10/06/2008 5:17:57 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: raybbr
Great! Thank you!

Anyone else who has similar conversion stories, please post them here!

3 posted on 10/06/2008 5:19:47 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Reaganesque

I first heard about the “liberals think everyone is basically good and conservatives think everyone is basically selfish” line from Rush years ago. I’ve thought a lot about it and the older I get, the more true it becomes.

It can be a painful thing, going from a deep-seated assumption that people are “basically good” to the realization that they’re not. It requires, as my husband would say, a complete “paradigm shift” that many aren’t self aware enough to contemplate, let alone master by incorporating it into their daily lives.


4 posted on 10/06/2008 5:24:25 AM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: Reaganesque

Good Lord! This is as wordy and unreadable as a William F. Buckley column.


5 posted on 10/06/2008 5:30:03 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Reaganesque
Bush got us into Iraq, JFK into Vietnam. Bush stole the election in Florida; Kennedy stole his in Chicago. Bush outed a CIA agent; Kennedy left hundreds of them to die in the surf at the Bay of Pigs. Bush lied about his military service; Kennedy accepted a Pulitzer Prize for a book written by Ted Sorenson. Bush was in bed with the Saudis, Kennedy with the Mafia. Oh.

He's still got a long way to go, but the longest journey begins with a single step.

6 posted on 10/06/2008 5:34:21 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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“Wordy and unreadable as a William F. Buckley.”

The only line I think that matters:

“NPR: National Palestinian Radio.”

This ‘born-again conservative’ is more driven by Zionism than American patriotism.


7 posted on 10/06/2008 5:37:08 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (Kill the monster.)
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To: Kieri

The belief of some that “people are basically good” and of others that “people are basically selfish” do NOT contradict each other. I believe that “people are BASICALLY good, up to that moment when that goodness comes into direct conflict with their SELFISH interests”. One may be pleased by the good fortune of another, but on realizing that the other’s good fortune does harm to MY good fortune, opinions change radically.
A civilized man does NOT set out to harm another for absolutely no purpose. However, when he sets out to further his own purpose and fortune and in the process hurts someone else...well...sorry about that. It is called HUMAN NATURE.


8 posted on 10/06/2008 5:46:57 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views)
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To: Natchez Hawk
This ‘born-again conservative’ is more driven by Zionism than American patriotism.

So true.

9 posted on 10/06/2008 5:49:52 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

“A civilized man does NOT set out to harm another for absolutely no purpose. However, when he sets out to further his own purpose and fortune and in the process hurts someone else...well...sorry about that. It is called HUMAN NATURE.”

If that’s human nature, I’d rather not be human.


10 posted on 10/06/2008 5:55:49 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: Reaganesque

bump


11 posted on 10/06/2008 6:02:22 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart - bumper sticker)
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To: Natchez Hawk

Mamet is becoming/has become an economic conservative. Once that genie is out of the bottle and you embrace John Locke many other pieces of the conservative puzzle fall into place.

This is not to say Mamet will be conservative in all things. Many of us have a liberal bone in an vastly conservative body, but he’s heading in the right direction and publicly doing so DURING AN ELECTION CYCLE. Pretty gutsy.


12 posted on 10/06/2008 6:05:41 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Please pray daily for OUR Sarah.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I may not agree with him on those points, either.
But,that’s the way he feels.

However, this article reeks of HONESTY, which is why it’s much more important than arguing his individual points.


13 posted on 10/06/2008 6:06:40 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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>>”wordy and un readable”>>

I thought it was just me. I hope this guy gets it figured out.

14 posted on 10/06/2008 6:19:51 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Reaganesque

“I read about this article on another thread and sought it out.”

Link to the other article by D’Souza ....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2098526/posts


15 posted on 10/06/2008 6:27:31 AM PDT by nuconvert (Obama - Preferred by 4 out of 5 Dictators & Terrorists// Rove>Biden is a Big,Blowhard Dufus)
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To: ladyjane; Natchez Hawk; Reaganesque
Let's see.

David Mamet writes quite long and wordy essay (he is a writer after all) about the beginning of his journey from liberalism to conservatism. He is not there 100% yet, and he retains some of the old views as well. But he selected for himself quite good teachers - Thomas Sowell, Milton Friedman, Paul Johnson, and Shelby Steele - so we have a hope for him to grow over his old prejudices as well.

Speaking about prejudices - NPR’s reflexive pro-Palestinian stance begins to annoy him. And he honestly describes that in one paragraph of the quite long essay.

And you, ladyjane and Natchez Hawk cry foul because of that? On his not finished yet journey from liberalism to conservatism he, among other things, as a Jew, finds NPR stance no longer acceptable (that separates him immediately from oh too many liberal Jews that eat up whatever NPR feeds them, no problem). A logical steppingstone on his journey. I'd say: welcome home, David, no second too late (actually a bit overdue, but better late than never).

You, ladyjane and Natchez Hawk, bring canard of double loyalty. How do you like to be accused of double standard to Jews?

16 posted on 10/06/2008 6:28:48 AM PDT by Tolik (2008: Maverick/Barracuda vs. Messiah/Mouth or The Hero vs. the Zero and "Our mama beats your Obama")
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To: Artemis Webb

I don’t question his gutsiness.

Heavens knows he’s only going to get grief for this in his professional life.


17 posted on 10/06/2008 6:54:35 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments.)
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To: raybbr

That was an excellent presentation.

I had always considered myself a liberal until the 2000 election. I was uneasy and embarrassed about what was going on in FLA with the recounts and, in trying to defend it online, was getting my @ss kicked with the facts.
Being able to use the internet to research and debate both sides of an issue really has been life-changing. Once I saw firsthand and understood the vile exploitative behavior of the Dems after 9/11, the deal was done. There was no chance of ever going back.

On the day of Reagan’s funeral I watched every minute of it, crying the whole time. My own puppet-like prejudice and brainwashed hatred of him had robbed me of understanding and appreciating what a great man he was for so many years. I wasn’t only mourning him, I was mourning years of my own life, and the attendant self-destructive indiscriminate behavior that my liberal beliefs had wrought.

Evil has now gone past the point where it can cloak itself and market itself as “progressive” or “liberal”. It is what it is, and it’s now out in the full light of day with fangs bared. I pray every day that there are more people out there like myself, who recoil in disgust, and will no longer turn a blind eye to reality.


18 posted on 10/06/2008 6:59:57 AM PDT by Sisku Hanne (The day begins and ends in Alaska.)
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To: Tolik

“How do you like to be accused of double standard...?”

I hold all Americans to the same standard.


19 posted on 10/06/2008 7:02:24 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments.)
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To: Reaganesque

Excellent, insightful post — thanks for seeking it out for all to see!

My nomination for best line in the article:

For, in the abstract, we may envision an Olympian perfection of perfect beings in Washington doing the business of their employers, the people, but any of us who has ever been at a zoning meeting with our property at stake is aware of the urge to cut through all the pernicious bullshit and go straight to firearms.


20 posted on 10/06/2008 7:04:29 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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