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Now Wall Street may shun $700bn bail-out
The Observer via The Guardian ^ | Oct 5 2008 | James Doran

Posted on 10/05/2008 6:18:18 AM PDT by Daffynition

Fears are mounting that many Wall Street banks and financial firms will refuse to participate in the US government's $700bn bail-out package, leaving global markets and world economies in a perilous state for months to come.

'There is a growing feeling that banks ... might instead decide to tough it out,' said Thomas Caldwell, chairman and CEO of Caldwell Financial, a $1bn-plus fund manager.

For the past two weeks all eyes in the market have been focused on US Congress and its attempts to pass Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson's bail-out package - a bill to allow the US government to buy up to $700bn of toxic mortgage-related assets from American banks, which would in theory free the credit markets and set the gears of global commerce spinning once more.

Last Monday, after the bill was thrown out by the House of Representatives, more than $1 trillion was wiped off the value of US stocks as the market was gripped by panic. The bill was passed on Friday afternoon, however, after the inclusion of $149bn of tax breaks and strict rules for participating banks.

But Wall Street analysts, believe the addition of so many terms to the bill might deter potential participants.

One of the least attractive elements is a section designed to curb executive pay at banks that participate in the bail-out package. These include limiting stock-related pay and banning 'golden parachutes' for executives.

'I think this hodge-podge of regulations and rules will be enough to put many [chief executives] off participating,' Caldwell said.

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(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; bailout; wallstreet
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To: silverleaf

This is where I think these *bad mortgages* can be re-written the right way .... one-by-one, and the holders suffer the consequences for their stupidity, if necessary... without a government bailout.

Or what is the PC term now, *rescue*? PFFFFT!


41 posted on 10/05/2008 7:40:12 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: dirtboy

If you;ve ever worked somewhere where Chairman and CEO are the same, you will recognize how atrocious it is. CEO is allowed to run the company into the ground without any sort of accountability. An independent board might just fire a rotten CEO but one controlled by the CEO never will. How else do you explain chumps like Jeff Immelt keeping his job at GE? Stock is down almost 70% since he took over, he’s still in charge and nobody can get rid of him.


42 posted on 10/05/2008 7:40:41 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: silverleaf

This is where I think these *bad mortgages* can be re-written the right way .... one-by-one, and the holders suffer the consequences for their stupidity, if necessary... without a government bailout.

Or what is the PC term now, *rescue*? PFFFFT!


43 posted on 10/05/2008 7:40:49 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition
Uppity taxpayers, demanding accountability!!!

Paulson and Bush just wanted $700 billion in used, unmarked bills, to hand out to Paulson's cronies with no strings attached and no accountability.

If the minimum control and oversight in the bill that passed is enough to keep some multi-billion dollar companies from taking taxpayer handouts then they aren't hurting as badly as we were told.


44 posted on 10/05/2008 7:41:36 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself)
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To: Fox_Mulder77; mewzilla
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45 posted on 10/05/2008 7:42:21 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: Dick Vomer

46 posted on 10/05/2008 7:43:44 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: theBuckwheat

Thanks for that.


47 posted on 10/05/2008 7:43:44 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: dirtboy
If a company is bellying up to the federal funds window, obviously their executives have largely failed. Try again.

If executives are trying to do so then it means the onus is on the socialists in Congress who created this mess by attacking our free market system and those who support them. The last thing the people should be doing is electing any candidate who supports this socialist scam Try again.
48 posted on 10/05/2008 7:45:14 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Iron Munro
Excellent cartoon!


49 posted on 10/05/2008 7:46:45 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: mewzilla

No, but they are the only two options that end at the White House. . .


50 posted on 10/05/2008 7:47:19 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: dirtboy

We all have to sacrifice for the good of the nation.

So, if they’re not going to take the money, I will.

You’ll thank me later.


51 posted on 10/05/2008 7:49:33 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Man50D

The free-market system played a large role in creating this mess with CDOs and CDSs. Ratings agencies lied about the quality of bonds. I’m sorry, but the free markets failed here. And the greed of executives was a critical aspect. They would play games to maximize their pay and the consequences to the world financial systems be damned. To blame government for all of what we are seeing is to live in as much denial as the Dems who only blame the private sector and deny their role in Fannie and Freddie.


52 posted on 10/05/2008 7:49:34 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

What McCain should have done was come out against the “second” bill-which the Senate approved. That version of the bailout was loaded with pork and earmarks. He could have then used his vote against it, and obama’s vote for it as another example of wasteful washington spending-at a time when this country can not afford it.


53 posted on 10/05/2008 7:52:54 AM PDT by mrmargaritaville
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To: mrmargaritaville

Personally, I wish he would have. Politically, I can see where he simply could not have. He was screwed by too many pubbie Senators. The final vote was 74 for. It would have accomplished nothing but to allow McCain to get shredded.


54 posted on 10/05/2008 7:54:23 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I see that Citibank has just sued to stop the transfer to Wells Fargo. The Arabs who control Citibank must be bent out of shape.


55 posted on 10/05/2008 7:56:03 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: dirtboy
The free-market system played a large role in creating this mess with CDOs and CDSs. Ratings agencies lied about the quality of bonds. I’m sorry, but the free markets failed here.

The free market system didn't fail. You're missing a very fundamental concept of the free market system and socialism. All economies undergo periods of expansion and contraction for a variety of reasons. In this case it appears to be about greed. As I said in a previous post. The free market ultimately weeds out those who make bad decisions. What's left are those who are aware excess in the long run will destroy a business. They remain in business. On the contrary, the free market system is working just as it is supposed to with no help from the socialists in Congress.

It is this socialist bail out that will destroy the economy by allowing those who made bad business decisions to stay in business and further world financial systems. The problem is socialists don't care about the stability of economies. They care about controlling them at the expense of everyone else.

To blame government for all of what we are seeing is to live in as much denial as the Dems who only blame the private sector and deny their role in Fannie and Freddie.

You didn't read my post very thoroughly. I said Congress and those who support them. The government is not just Congress. The people are the government and many of them are to blame for allowing socialists to slowly destroy the country. People should be blaming them for perpetuating this mess instead of voting them into office.
56 posted on 10/05/2008 8:06:55 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: mewzilla; Fox_Mulder77

He’s not a Maverick, he’s a flaming Pinto.


57 posted on 10/05/2008 8:09:37 AM PDT by informavoracious (Oust all incumbents.)
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To: Daffynition

This would not be a bad thing.


58 posted on 10/05/2008 8:11:03 AM PDT by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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To: Man50D
In this case it appears to be about greed. As I said in a previous post. The free market ultimately weeds out those who make bad decisions.

In this case the free market created an interlocking system of derivatives capable of completely obliterating the global economy as we know it. Warren Buffet himself called them finacial weapons of mass destruction. The rest of the world is not interested in your end game of financial destruction as proof the free market works. You approach destroys the village to save it. No idea or concept works by itself, and free markets are no exception.

59 posted on 10/05/2008 8:11:14 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Daffynition

Good. I’ve got friends (and an investment) in a community bank that has NEVER made a sub-prime loan, even at the height of the craziness a few years ago. They are still taking deposits and making loans. People are abandoning the over-leveraged Wall Street houses of cards and putting their money in safe, prudent local banks.


60 posted on 10/05/2008 8:11:19 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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