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Banks love bailout, hate credit card curbs
The Los Angeles Times ^ | September 28, 2008 | David Lazarus

Posted on 10/04/2008 5:31:40 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

You've got to love the banking industry.

As our friends in the financial sector were passing the hat among taxpayers last week for $700 billion in bailouts to cover their crappy mortgage investments, they were simultaneously condemning the House of Representatives' passage of a "Credit Cardholders' Bill of Rights," which aims to crack down on some of the industry's more troublesome practices.

The legislation -- HR 5244 -- would, among other things, end card issuers' self-proclaimed right to change interest rates at any time. Instead, a 45-day notice would be required for any increase.

It also would give cardholders more time to pay by requiring issuers to mail bills at least 25 days before the due date, as opposed to the current 14 days.

Similar measures are being considered by the Federal Reserve, the National Assn. of Credit Unions and the Office of Thrift Supervision. But they wouldn't carry the force of law and could be weakened by more industry-friendly regulators down the road.

Absolutely. We need a level playing field. Perhaps, if federal regulators can't fix things. No way. Lawmakers should mind their own business. The House bill still needs to be tackled by the Senate, and it's unclear what its chances are there. The Bush administration has signaled its opposition to the legislation.

"The timing of all this couldn't be more glaring," said Bill Hardekopf, chief exec of LowCards.com, a website that tracks credit card rates and trends. "While banks say they would be tanking without taxpayer money, here comes a bill that would help taxpayers, and the banks say it isn't right.

"I'm amazed that there's not more humility at a time like this."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 110th; bailout; bankcards; banking; creditcards
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1 posted on 10/04/2008 5:31:40 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: ExTexasRedhead; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; AuntB; bamahead; cripplecreek

After getting bailed out by we the taxpayers, they should be bending over backward to do us favors.


2 posted on 10/04/2008 5:33:02 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The big question is whether the credit card underwriters will continue to be able to underwrite credit cards, or if there will have to be mass cancellations of cards. If it is a possibility, it would be very wise to get an additional instrument, a debit card, to insure you have timely access to spending money.


3 posted on 10/04/2008 5:37:08 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

If you can’t afford to pay off your credit card at the end of the month, you pretty much should never use it.

Americans CAN live with less “Made in China” crap that fills our McMansions!

It’s time to get to a simpler, common sense life, within your means. More credit to the uncreditworthy is not the answer!


4 posted on 10/04/2008 5:40:14 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Hey B. Hussein, are you going to prosecute me now?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Credit card companies suck. They encourage people to spend money they don’t have and probably can’t pay back.


5 posted on 10/04/2008 5:40:34 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama! - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
among other things, end card issuers' self-proclaimed right to change interest rates at any time

Self-proclaimed? It's as if signing a contract is just a meaningless annoyance you have to put with to get the card.

6 posted on 10/04/2008 5:41:06 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Boiling Pots

“It’s time to get to a simpler, common sense life, within your means. More credit to the uncreditworthy is not the answer!”

Its not the uncreditworthy they are after. You spend more money if you use a credit card than cash or check. Retailers love ‘em as does the govt. Credit card records make it easy to track peoples spending.


7 posted on 10/04/2008 5:43:21 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama! - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: driftdiver
They encourage people to spend money they don’t have and probably can’t pay back.

So credit card companies are deliberately trying to lose money?

Wait don't tell me... I see it now... They're going to make it up on the volume right?

8 posted on 10/04/2008 5:43:50 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp

“Self-proclaimed? It’s as if signing a contract is just a meaningless annoyance you have to put with to get the card. “

Yes and they reserve the right to change the terms of that contract any time they want.

You are seriously contending that credit card issuers are honest businesses?


9 posted on 10/04/2008 5:44:38 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama! - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Those who have a problem with credit cards shouldn't have them.

Those who don't misuse them don't suffer.

10 posted on 10/04/2008 5:48:38 PM PDT by what's up
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To: SeeSharp

“So credit card companies are deliberately trying to lose money? “

Oh I dunno, why else do they issue credit cards to college students with very little income. They encourage people to carry debt.

“Wait don’t tell me... I see it now... They’re going to make it up on the volume right?”

Wait don’t tell me, credit card company’s don’t take advantage of people. They are just honest business owners trying to help you take that vacation.

Why is it I receive about 20 pre-approved credit card forms a week?


11 posted on 10/04/2008 5:48:51 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama! - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: driftdiver
You are seriously contending that credit card issuers are honest businesses?

Yes of course I am. If the terms of the contract you agreed to allow them to change rates then they can change rates. No one puts a gun to your head and forced you to take a credit card. You aren't going to suggest that a credit card is some kind of right, so where is the credit card company being dishonest?

12 posted on 10/04/2008 5:49:10 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: what's up

“Those who have a problem with credit cards shouldn’t have them.”

The issue I have with them is the business practices of most credit card companies.

If you pay your credit card off each month it actually hurts your credit score.

I have a problem with greedy people.


13 posted on 10/04/2008 5:51:02 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama! - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: driftdiver
Why is it I receive about 20 pre-approved credit card forms a week?

Um... because they are in the credit card business maybe? What kind of flyers do car dealerships send you? Pizza parlors?

There is nothing wrong with soliciting business. Are breweries to blame if you get drunk?

14 posted on 10/04/2008 5:53:59 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp

“If the terms of the contract you agreed to allow them to change rates then they can change rates.”

The terms of those agreements allow them to change all the terms, not just the rate. Numerous companies will delay processing payments to increase fees.

“You aren’t going to suggest that a credit card is some kind of right, so where is the credit card company being dishonest?”

Nope, its not a right. We once banned loan sharks on street corners but allowed them to put a tie on and take the corner office.


15 posted on 10/04/2008 5:54:01 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama! - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: SeeSharp

“Um... because they are in the credit card business maybe?”

They take advantage of people.

I’ve seen the credit card industry from the inside. Its all about greed and not about providing a service.


16 posted on 10/04/2008 5:55:48 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama! - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: driftdiver
The terms of those agreements allow them to change all the terms, not just the rate.

But the key word is "agreement". It's only dishonest if they tell you one thing and do another. If you sign an agreement and the company acts within the terms of that agreement then you can't say they're being dishonest.

17 posted on 10/04/2008 5:58:17 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: driftdiver
So if you think your credit score is being affected, don't use a credit card on a monthly basis.
18 posted on 10/04/2008 6:00:20 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

“So if you think your credit score is being affected, don’t use a credit card on a monthly basis.”

Not using it also hurts your credit score. The credit score is really a measure of how likely they are to make money off of you. They want you to carry a balance so they collect interest.


19 posted on 10/04/2008 6:01:44 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama! - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: driftdiver
So take it up with the credit agencies if you have a bee in your bonnet.

I like credit cards. They've helped me in my business.

20 posted on 10/04/2008 6:04:48 PM PDT by what's up
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