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1 posted on 10/04/2008 3:35:43 PM PDT by narses
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”
Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment
Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

2 posted on 10/04/2008 3:36:14 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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Medical Miracle Awes Millions As Catholic Bishops Grow Spines.


4 posted on 10/04/2008 3:43:39 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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“In response, a coalition of liberal lay Catholics is pushing back, criticizing the bishop’s message for neglecting other aspects of “life” talked about in Catholic social teachings, like concern for the poor.”

The “coalition of liberal lay Catholics” is factually and theologically WRONG about the question - “social justice” - and the issues - how to work for it.

Why are they wrong?

Because their answer is the political equivalent of abortion - socialism; killing human liberty for a Utopian political agenda.

Ask yourself if Yeshua ever intended to place His mission - ANY PART OF HIS MISSION - in the power structure of secular government? No, He did not.


7 posted on 10/04/2008 3:51:43 PM PDT by Wuli
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YEP i know “liberal catholics” are on the margins of church.

In the Catholic church Bishops ,and the Pope at their head,lead,teach and rule the christians.

The Catholic church consistently condemn abortion but doesn’t make the choice of SSocialism as model of society.
The Catholic church ,on the contrary,is firmly opposed to every totalitarianisms...

Litard catholics represent only themselves AND NOT at all the church


9 posted on 10/04/2008 4:01:35 PM PDT by Ulysse
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Freedom has an inverse relationship to human rights abuse.

The Democratic Party consistently undermines Freedom.

Ergo...


10 posted on 10/04/2008 4:15:52 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (Why do we call the "left wing media" the "mainstream media?")
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“Being ‘right’ on taxes, education, health care, immigration and the economy fails to make up for the error of disregarding the value of a human life,” the bishop wrote.

Unfortunately, being "right" for CINOs means living a life based on envy, and sacrificing your free will to an all-too-fallible government.

So by accepting smaller evils, it's okay to support a much larger evil, as long as they are the "right" smaller evils?

14 posted on 10/04/2008 4:37:28 PM PDT by 300winmag (Deterrence is an activity, Destruction is a profession)
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The idea being articulated here is all wet.

Where did the liberals get the idea that supporting big government social programs was somehow salvific and a substitute for charitable giving, and which even provides indulgence for committing sins like abortion and sodomy?

They’re mixed up for certain.


16 posted on 10/04/2008 4:56:59 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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At the top of that article:

Brad C. Bower/Associated Press

Bishop Joseph Martino of Scranton, Pa., has ordered every priest in the diocese to read a letter warning that voting for a supporter of abortion rights amounts to endorsing “homicide.”


19 posted on 10/04/2008 10:33:48 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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Asked how his former Republican colleagues were responding to his Obama evangelism, Mr. Kmiec acknowledged some resistance. “Some remind me that George Washington gave orders for Benedict Arnold to be shot on sight,” he said.
20 posted on 10/05/2008 1:08:37 AM PDT by iowamark
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