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From the GOP's New Guard, the Audacity of Nope
http://www.washingtonpost.com ^ | October 5, 2008 | By Eve Fairbanks

Posted on 10/04/2008 11:30:38 AM PDT by Maelstorm

Sure, 91 House Republicans finally voted to pass a tweaked version of the financial bailout bill Friday. But for the GOP's big honchos, last Monday's defeat in the House of Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr.'s plan was still the most stinging humiliation they've suffered in years. To unlock the mystery of the earlier bill's stunning rejection, consider two numbers: 82 and 0. The first is the percentage of retiring Republican representatives who voted for the bill. The second is the percentage of Republican freshmen who did.

Think about that for a moment. The GOP's retirees, the people who finally no longer have to make anybody happy, went overwhelmingly for the bailout, but a grand total of zero GOP freshmen agreed to back the plan that their party's president, Treasury secretary, House leader, whip and ranking member on the Financial Services Committee all begged them to support. John Boehner, the House minority leader, even teared up before the roll call as he choked out the pleading words, "Vote yes." It's basic math: If Boehner could have controlled his freshmen, the bill would have passed. In a political season overwhelmed with claims to audacity, it was one heck of an audacious coup.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; bailout; freshmen; gop
We have a future. We lost in 2006 because of the Bush Compassionate spending and the GOP who won in 1994 ending up falling for the same mess that undid the Democrats. People do not want more handouts. The hard work is educating people on what it is to be a responsible individual not telling them fairy tales about free health care and how the Government that can't seem to get much right ought to be given more to do? We need a clear message. Reagan said it best with his message "The Government is the Problem". We have an opportunity with this mess to rally the people behind the biggest attack on government socialism and waste. It is an opportunity that John McCain needs to lead on.

People are excited here in VA. Just the other day I had someone stop me in the fastfood lane because they wanted a sign. What is unfortunate is that we have strong conservatives like Steve Pearce(NM) and Jim Gilmore(VA) who would not have voted for this horrible bailout and who would vote to confirm judges. It is the ideology that matters. Republicans are deluding themselves if they think handouts is the way they win votes. Start running on fiscal responsibility. Start attacking the government that made this mess with Fannie and Freddie. Post partisanship is stupid when the other guy is a socialist the only possible result of compromise is socialism.

George Bush had so much opportunity and now he has nearly destroyed the GOP. Well we real conservatives are ascendant. The big spending rhinos are going extinct and it may take us a generation to rebuild the party but it will be stronger and it will principled. We will not lie our way into power like liberals do.

1 posted on 10/04/2008 11:30:38 AM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm
I appreciate this posting. Yes, there is a future for our party. If this election is a catastrophe, I believe that from the ashes we will have the foundation for the future. We have Sarah, some great young governors and guys in Congress that deserve some attention.

We may need a bit of time to rebuild. But, I know that in the event of an Obama election, 2010 will be a good year for us.

2 posted on 10/04/2008 11:38:43 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Maelstorm
George Bush had so much opportunity and now he has nearly destroyed the GOP.

Bush II is not much different from Bush I. They have both done a lot of damage to the Republican party. The Bush era is almost over. Thank goodness.

There is a lot of young conservative talent coming up the ranks of the Republican party. That will rid us of the Bush influence.

3 posted on 10/04/2008 11:38:47 AM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: Maelstorm

Thank you freshman GOPpers.

At least the flame of the Republic is not entirely extinguished.

God riddence to those retiring. Most of them waxed Tom DeLay
by not allowing him to stay on while falsely indicted.That was the biggest mistake they made in their respective careers.

Boner? He can take a long walk off a short pier, along with all of the other fags who voted for the second bill. Over 90% of Americans were against this bail out.

Sat. am news vidicated the US publics sentiments as the fraud of AIG aided by Goldman Sachs is coming out. ( What was that firms name Paulsen USED ( sarc.) to work for?):

See AIG/SACHS Fraud info. thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2097416/posts

This is a calamity! What was represented to Bush by Paulson?

Americans are very, very angry.

No one knows what they will do about it, but it promises to be interesting.


4 posted on 10/04/2008 11:42:23 AM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (http://www.theobamafile.com/))
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To: Maelstorm
"For more than a year Rostenkowski, one of Bush's closest friends in Congress, has pleaded with the President to "tell the American people that if we don't balance our budget, we're going to be No. 2 in the world, and the American people will say 'The hell we are!' If you challenge them, they will accept whatever sacrifice you say is necessary."

Bush was unmoved by Rostenkowski's appeal, as he was last month when some advisers urged him to forcefully exploit the crisis in the gulf as an opportunity to make progress on the budget. Bush did give a televised a .....

Read My Hips Monday, Oct. 22, 1990

5 posted on 10/04/2008 11:45:22 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Maelstorm

Two years after the first Bush left the White House, the GOP took over both houses of Congress.

There seems to be a new generation of young, aggressive conservative Republicans who are ready to take over the party and whip it back into shape.


6 posted on 10/04/2008 11:47:33 AM PDT by Harry Wurzbach (Rep. Thaddeus McCotter is my hero.)
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The GOP's retirees, the people who finally no longer have to make anybody happy, went overwhelmingly for the bailout

Like voting money into your own bank account & calling it a public service.

7 posted on 10/04/2008 11:48:39 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Harry Wurzbach
There seems to be a new generation of young, aggressive conservative Republicans who are ready to take over the party and whip it back into shape.

Same thing happened in 94.

But Washington gets to everybody sooner or later.

8 posted on 10/04/2008 11:49:40 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Maelstorm

I fear for our republic. Gun sales are through the roof. The people who want the handouts from higher taxes are about 35% of the voters.

I heard that only 2/3’s of the voters pay any taxes. Of that figure the top 50% pay 90% of the taxes.

I heard a top income tax bracket figure of 54% the other day.

We have just had a Communist takeover of a large portion of our finacial sector. Soon they will nationalize the engry sector.

I wonder if McCain will be able to keep Sarah’s mouth shut about this issue?


9 posted on 10/04/2008 11:50:13 AM PDT by stockpirate (Welcome to the United Socialist States of America- Vote for Palin, save our country)
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To: Candor7

DeLay was part of the problem. It was DeLay who strong-armed wavering members into voting for the prescription drugs bill, the first major big government sell-out of the Bush administration.


10 posted on 10/04/2008 12:04:13 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Harry Wurzbach

We are going to fight to the front. I think this nation is ready for principled men and women. Look at the reaction to Palin when she talked about personal responsibility. It went through the roof. John McCain needs to figure this out, he likes to talk about non partisanship but he needs to talk about punishing Congress and accountability of government.


11 posted on 10/04/2008 12:12:15 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: Maelstorm

Mine who came on in ‘05 voted for it. He won’t be getting my vote.


12 posted on 10/04/2008 12:18:42 PM PDT by itsthejourney (Sarah-cuda IS the right reason)
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To: itsthejourney

Interestingly enough, my dem Senator, Johnson, and the Dem Congresswoman Herseth Sandlin voted nay both times. The Lone Republican Senator Thune voted Yea.

The only difference, or perhaps the most obvious difference, both dems are in reelection races and the Republican is not.


13 posted on 10/04/2008 1:35:06 PM PDT by wita
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