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A Rebel Soldier’s Aim Is Still Pretty Accurate, but His Timing Is Off
NY Times ^ | October 4, 2008 | RALPH BLUMENTHAL

Posted on 10/04/2008 8:10:58 AM PDT by Pharmboy

Edited on 10/04/2008 8:28:15 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: lionheart 247365

I do WW2 reenacting, and let me tell you, they are very strict about live ammo and safety.
You have to pull the bolt out of your rifle and show it to the Feldwebel, and produce a stripper clip of blank from your ammo pouches.
There was one event where some Allied unit made grenades that were so powerful that a few of the German Soldaten was hit with rocks that was packed so lovingly around the charge.


21 posted on 10/04/2008 9:13:59 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (Running isnt a plan:Running is what you do when a plan fails.)
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To: Fido969

I’m a reenactor too. LOL. This is beginning to sound like an AA meeting. I don’t carry a gun, but I have me story to tell back at the cabins. Wolfpen Woods, KY. is a pioneer village (approx. 1795). Great place for school children to learn about their heritage. Asults too.


22 posted on 10/04/2008 9:15:26 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: WVNan

sheesh. Adults that is.


23 posted on 10/04/2008 9:18:19 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: AnAmericanMother

You are correct on what you posted.

It was done at the “behest of filmmakers” and used “extras”.

Since the G-burg movie filmmakers have found out they came save tons of money on “extras”. Simply put “the word out” and reenactors will show up with their own gear. Anything to be in a movie.

They’ll work cheap to.

But as you noted this comes without the safeguards put in place by a typical reenactment.

“Movie call” and lack of oversight lets the Yahoo’s run free.


24 posted on 10/04/2008 9:22:13 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Pharmboy

I’ve been doing reenacting for the last fifteen years. Rigged out for either side as a regular or geurilla. Living history is such a hoot! That this sort of thing happens shouldn’t surprise anyone. Some ‘hard core’ reenactors are so into their impressions that they almost seem to be dissapointed that they don’t get dysentry. I like to reenact not relive. I was almost speared by a ram rod once and that was on a film shoot as well. When you are about to be over run by a band of screaming ‘sabre fairies’ charging on those big horse even though you know its not real its is terrifying and the adrenalin starts to pump. Thats when things can get dangerous and guys forget saftey rules. Since I usually get killed I make it a point to try to go down quickly and in the shade if possible.


25 posted on 10/04/2008 10:11:06 AM PDT by Leg Olam (We have too many Agamemnons and too few Homers)
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To: Lee Heggy123

A horseshoe square in the gut hurts just as bad whether it’s during a reenactment or a real live battle!


26 posted on 10/04/2008 10:34:36 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: Lee Heggy123

“I make it a point to try to go down quickly and in the shade if possible.”

LOL!


27 posted on 10/04/2008 10:50:27 AM PDT by Brucifer ("The dog ate my copy of the Constitution." G W Bush)
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To: Lee Heggy123
On taking a hit early. Our whole company took a hit at
morning roll call. Left the Capt. and 1st Sgt with the
most comical look on their faces. Being on the receiving
end of a Cavalry charge can be most exciting. At my very
first reenactment, Union Cavalry charged through our gun
line at Franklin, TN. in 1995. We got between the wheels
and under the limbers. I've been hooked ever since.

Mike

28 posted on 10/04/2008 12:25:46 PM PDT by doublecansiter
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To: Pharmboy

Sounds like another gallop-by shooting. Thanks Pharmboy.


29 posted on 10/04/2008 5:23:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Pharmboy

“....although not normally with live ammunition.”

Well theres the problem right there.


30 posted on 10/04/2008 5:25:48 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: lionheart 247365
"...someone dropped the ball..."

Sure did...and it probably looked a lot like this one...


31 posted on 10/04/2008 5:29:45 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: aculeus
Civil War is an oxymoron.

It's the most common description but not necessarily the most accurate.

Many folks refer to this conflict as the War Between the States, or from the north: The War of Rebellion. Southerners with deep roots call this The War of NAWthun Aggression or more passionately: The recent unpleasantness.

32 posted on 10/05/2008 7:36:51 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: PeteB570
During most “battles” the rammer is not used and the powder is simply poured down the barrel and set off by the cap.

Isn't some sort of wadding needed to both hold the powder in place prior to ignition, and to maintain pressure until the powder has substantially ignited?

33 posted on 10/05/2008 8:05:08 PM PDT by supercat
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To: supercat

Not for the most part.

The rifle is “loaded” in the upright position so the powder falls to the bottom. As long as the rife is carried upright, or at least the muzzle not dropped below the horizontal there is no problem with ignition.

If somebody does get the muzzle too low they might dump their powder or get a “phzzzzt” instead of a “bang”.

It is hard to “load” in this way during skirmishing so you’ll see most raise the barrel to a vertical position and tap the but on the ground to “seat” the powder.

The paper used to hold the powder can be rammed and is done so at some reenactments. For the most part there is nothing wrong with that but there are a few issues.

On the conn side some have been known to leave the rammer in and fire it, somebody might have used staples or such and they become a projectile and the paper is burning and does set grass fires.

On the plus side it keeps the powder in place, better ignition, slows the rate of fire to a more realistic rate and keeps the powder dry when it’s raining.

All in all, most mainstream reenactments go the route of most safety.


34 posted on 10/06/2008 4:06:46 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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