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Teachers seek big pay hikes (Bucks County PA
Bucks County Courier Times ^ | 10/02/08 | Rich Pietras

Posted on 10/03/2008 9:04:25 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen

Souderton's teacher union is proposing increasing starting salaries from $37,323 to $43,102 over four years, an increase of 15 percent, according to the Souderton Area Education Association's final best offer released Tuesday ---snip---

But few teachers are at that starting level — 145 of Souderton's 512 teachers are at the top of the salary schedule. The top step is for teachers with more than 15 years of service and a master's degree plus 24 or more additional credits.

They now earn $89,363 and would earn $100,750 after the fourth year of the contract, according to the union's proposal. That works out to an $11,387 increase — about a 13 percent hike

(Excerpt) Read more at phillyburbs.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: education; teacherpay
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1 posted on 10/03/2008 9:04:25 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen; Tribune7; TAdams8591; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; wireman; Mr. Binnacle; brityank; ...
Hi all,
I am growing a ping list for news of Metro Philly/Delaware Valley area; Anybody that wants to be on or off the list please let me know via e-mail or just reply to this post . Some of you have already responded. Other names were recommended to me but I will not put you on the list officially unless you explicitly tell me via e-mail or respond to this post..
Go Phillies !!
2 posted on 10/03/2008 9:07:24 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen (All things shall be well; You shall see for yourself that all manner of things shall be well)
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To: Kid Shelleen

please add me to your list


3 posted on 10/03/2008 9:09:01 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I’m sorry, but an “education” degree NEVER quallifies for that sort of salary. It’s simply not an education. Period.


4 posted on 10/03/2008 9:13:19 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: cgk

*ping*


5 posted on 10/03/2008 9:17:11 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (youtube.com/wptg)
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To: Da Coyote

a $100K+ for 9 months of work. Sign me up.


6 posted on 10/03/2008 9:18:02 AM PDT by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands.")
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To: Kid Shelleen
I'm sorry, but no public grade school or high school teacher should be making 6 figures, or even close to it. And I say this as someone with several family members past and present that have been in the teaching profession. My local district just renegotiated the contract with their union, with the starting salary being $44,000. Teachers are a dime a dozen, for the most part, and it is not a difficult job unless you are teaching in some lousy inner city school with AWOL parents.

Sorry, but this issue frosts my knickers.

7 posted on 10/03/2008 9:18:36 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (A happy member of the New Media.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Pretty good for barely 9 months of work and holiday weeks/days plus better health care coverage than I have now. Where do I sign?

you can add me to your ping list. Thanks!!


8 posted on 10/03/2008 9:20:23 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: Kid Shelleen

Hey, I live in Central Bucks where the teachers already make that much. I pay $900 a month in property taxes.


9 posted on 10/03/2008 9:26:07 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (NEVER FORGET -- it all started with Fannie Mae and the Democrats!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Some, not from this area, might be interested to learn that
these teachers are some of the LOWEST paid teachers in the Philly suburbs. Not to mention that these same teachers enjoy benefits and a retirement that are far superior to most in the private sector. It is OUT OF CONTROL.


10 posted on 10/03/2008 9:36:08 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Kid Shelleen

Please put me on the list.

Thank you


11 posted on 10/03/2008 9:36:33 AM PDT by Granny Rudd
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To: MPJackal

There’s good money in teaching these days.
The unions have done a heckuva job selling the false impression that teachers are “underpaid”.
My daughter started right out of college (bachelor deg) close to 40gs - here in the midwest that’s decent money for 9 months. Add in some tutoring bucks from summer and she’s north of 50.


12 posted on 10/03/2008 9:40:27 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Dems_R_Losers

I live in Central Bucks, too. Many years ago, a principal at a Central Bucks school told my education class that after ten years with a master’s degree, teacher’s make 90K. That’s gone way up since then. My husband has a Ph.D. and teaches college, was a dept. chair for decades. He doesn’t make this much money. Teacher’s salaries here are really high, although not as high as NJ.


13 posted on 10/03/2008 9:54:50 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Kid Shelleen

May I be on your list? Thank you!


14 posted on 10/03/2008 9:55:27 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Kid Shelleen

I almost spit out my coke when I read the supposed teacher salary for Souderton! We lived very near there and had teachers in our school who were making over 100K - and for kindergarten..... teaching is a great profession in Bucks County - and explained why some teachers drove over an hour each way to work there.


15 posted on 10/03/2008 10:26:22 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Obama prays to himself: "The prayer that I tell myself every night ...")
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To: Kid Shelleen

Please add me to you list.


16 posted on 10/03/2008 10:30:49 AM PDT by pghkevin (Have you hugged your kids today? Have you thanked someone in the Military today?)
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To: Kid Shelleen

That’s a pretty good gig for working 6 hours a day 9 months per year (1080 hours). We can gross that up for comparison to a standard 40 hour week and 50 week year (don’t know how many people only work 40 hours anymore, but I’ll use it anyway - 2000 hours.) Based on that math, the starting pay is comparable to $79,819 per year for a more standard work schedule. Add in an extraordinary benefit package, an virtually nonexistant chance of getting fired for poor performance and a 1950’s style pension for life and that makes a pretty compelling offer. Shouldn’t have trouble finding applicants.


17 posted on 10/03/2008 11:13:22 AM PDT by grayhog
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To: MPJackal

Dude! Sigh me up too! I don’t even make half of that salary - and I’ve been teaching for over 10 years - plus I work 10 months of the year.


18 posted on 10/03/2008 11:31:07 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Kid Shelleen; Dems_R_Losers; twigs; grayhog

I’m a product of the Central Bucks HS system, now the HS is CB West.

In the ‘50s the social studies teachers were so poorly paid that they took up a table at a local tavern playing cards and nursing a nickel beer until someone with a real job bought a round for the house. Then they could have another. Couldn’t be thrown out.

When the state failed to bust the illegal teacher’s union in the late ‘60s, early ‘70s they got a raise. Their response, more pay less work.

I got in trouble because I ridiculed the teachers for going to the local Firestone dealer for their 5% teacher discount. Their tires were more expensive, their front end alignment was more expensive than where I had my first job as a kid. Their front end guy who did alignments brought his own car to us for alignment. Small town, his brother went to the same HS.

10 days sick leave, you can bet they used 9 1/2. And the school year was 182 days. Let see, that’s out sick about 5% of the time.

The principal at CBW was David Spahr, shaker from Nebraska and hopefully long gone from this planet. They decided to hire a third principal and rotate them between the Admin building, West and LEast. First guy rotated to the Admin building, Sparhky.

Had a boss (we fired him) whose wife went from special ed teacher to teaching six grade math in the Neshaminy system down in lower Bucks. She made 82K/yr back in ‘94. She used to bring the questions her students asked home to her husband and get back to the kids with the answer the next day. Only took her 1 1/2 years to actually be able to answer the questions herself. Her husband told me this story more than once.

Almost met her, they stopped by the workplace but he made her stay in the car.

At least CBW used to have a good football team, but since CB South is there it sounds like they lost all their best players.

I’m just glad I graduated before they came thru and re-evaluated the school system. Think major downgrade.

If I gave my teacher’s grades they wouldn’t have been good with a small handful of exceptions.


19 posted on 10/03/2008 11:45:49 AM PDT by Eagles2003
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To: Eagles2003

Actually, I’m surprised to hear you say what you do about the teachers here. Since I’m taking education classes (and in contrast to what a lot of Freepers think of such classes, mine have mostly all been excellent), I’ve visited a lot of Bucks Co classrooms. Yes, I’ve seen some mediocre teachers and one very bad one. But overall, I’ve been surprisingly impressed. However, instead of sending my own daughter to CBW, I sent her north to Plumstead.

I have just learned that to become a social studies teacher (probably any type of teacher) in CBSD, you basically get hired as a substitute the first year and during the first semester you teach, a principal will be in the classroom observing you at least twice a week. You don’t get a contract until after the first or second year you are there (I forget which). If you are not a good teacher, you get fired before you get a contract.


20 posted on 10/03/2008 11:54:47 AM PDT by twigs
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