Okay, here’s my second attempt at answering this post. This time it’ll be more abbreviated.
And I just happen to think that the claims made by Berg in his lawsuit make the birth certificate a non-issue
***You’re straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel. Berg has stated publicly that he’d withdraw the lawsuit if a valid copy of the BC were produced, as I posted to you. That’s one good way to piss off a judge is to not follow through on a publicly stated promise to drop a lawsuit.
But Berg argues that his Indonesian citizenship trumps whatever status he may have had as “natural born” by being born in Hawaii.
***See previous paragraph.
But I haven’t seen any evidence that he was born in Kenya.
***There was a Kenyan birth certificate posted on FR, statements by relatives that he was born in Kenya. Unfortunately, Berg bought into a red herring when he suggested a Canadian birth — note the birth certificate was signed by Dudley Dooright. So, his case has huge holes in it, and the fact you’re focusing on this small matter compared to the real big stuff is quizzical, especially when it gets pointed out to you that Berg will drop the suit.
So if I am trying to steer the conversation to Berg, it’s only because that’s what I was led to believe this conversation was about.
***OK, I wasn’t clear on this point. You’re trying to steer the conversation to this minor little thing in Berg’s lawsuit which is subordinate to the birth certificate, even by Berg’s public statements. So you’re trying to steer the conversation to this minor point, casually overlooking at least one huge major point along your path.
Second, I can’t answer that question. Nor do I see that anyone but Obama can answer that question. Anything else is just speculation. And speculation doesn’t get one any closer to any meaningful answer so I don’t see the point.
***You’re speculating on this minor legal point about Indonesian dual citizenship trumping the birth certificate, even though Berg has stated publicly that he’d drop the suit if a BC were produced. When I ask questions along these lines, I acknowledge that I’m trying to figure out your underlying motive. What is your motive, when you swallow the camel of Dudley Dooright and Berg’s public statements but strain at a gnat of Indonesian dual citizenship?
But that's not what Berg stated in the article you posted, as I have pointed out to you.
So, his case has huge holes in it, and the fact you’re focusing on this small matter compared to the real big stuff is quizzical, especially when it gets pointed out to you that Berg will drop the suit.
No, it is you who is focusing on a small matter compared to the real big stuff.
Again, Berg did not say he would drop the suit if Obama simply produced a Hawaiian birth certificate. You keep overlooking the "real big stuff" of Berg's claiming that Obama lost whatever US citizenship he had when his mother married Soetoro and moved to Indonesia where Obama acquired Indonesian citizenship.
And this is precisely why Berg is asking for more than just a Hawaiian birth certificate as you keep trying to claim, but also a certified copies of his certification of citizenship and his oath of allegiance.
OK, I wasn’t clear on this point. You’re trying to steer the conversation to this minor little thing in Berg’s lawsuit which is subordinate to the birth certificate, even by Berg’s public statements.
You haven't shown me a public statement made by Berg in which he says he will drop the suit if all Obama does is produce his Hawaiian birth certificate.
Berg himself says it wouldn't matter if he does due to Berg's claim of Indonesian citizenship.
You’re speculating on this minor legal point about Indonesian dual citizenship trumping the birth certificate...
I'm not speculating at all on that point. Berg lays it out in clear black and white. Here it is again in case you missed it the first couple of times around:
Even if Obama was, in fact, born in Hawaii, he lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother re-married and moved to Indonesia with her Indonesian husband.
This says in unequivocal terms that Obama's producing a Hawaiian birth certificate would ultimately be irrelevant to his case as it would have absolutely no bearing at all on his claims with regard to Indonesian citizenship.
What is your motive, when you swallow the camel of Dudley Dooright and Berg’s public statements but strain at a gnat of Indonesian dual citizenship?
And I would ask what is your motive when you misrepresent what Berg has said publicly, and completely ignore what he has said in his own lawsuit?