Posted on 10/02/2008 8:33:03 PM PDT by markedmannerf
JOE BIDENS 14 LIES TONIGHT
1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted the exact same way as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.
3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, Drill we must. But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to raping the Outer Continental Shelf.
4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of its passage.
5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says hes always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCains record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.
7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false
(Excerpt) Read more at minx.cc ...
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/
Test Ban Treaty
10:04 p.m.
Sen. Joseph Biden asserted that Sen. John McCain opposed the comprehensive nuclear test ban and that virtually every other Republican supported it. That is false. President Clinton never submitted the test ban for formal ratification because it faced overwhelming Republican opposition in a GOP-controlled Senate.
Jonathan Weisman
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Comparing Biden and The One to used car salesmen gives used car salesmen a bad name. At least they are only selling to one person at a time.
bkmk
Here’s the CNN transcript. I will check it against my recording (you know why). We need the links for each one.
Checking for vids, speech transcripts, MSM. Also searching for full debate online.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/02/debate.transcript/index.html
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The full name of FactCheck.org is The Annenberg Political Fact Check. The Annenberg Political Fact Check is a subsidiary of the Annenberg Public Policy Center.
Another subsidiary of the Annenberg Public Policy Center is the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was the political launching pad for one Barack Obama. Obama was plucked out of obscurity to head the Chicago Annenberg Challenge by his old friend and unrepentent terrorist William Ayers, and the contacts formed while working for the CAC became the core of his political power base. It would not be at all inaccurate to call Barack Obama "The Senator from Annenberg".
If you think the Annenberg Political Fact Check is going to play it straight down the middle when dealing with "The Senator from Annenberg", you have another thing coming!
He was 100 - 200% wrong!!!!!!
and a very bitter salesman at that. He is an idiot and should be thrown out on his ear the next election. What a loser. He needs to get a humble job and contemplate his disgraceful behavior in front of millions of voters.
There were only 14? I thought he was lying every time his lips moved!
I remember the “100 million American middle class families” quote. Do the math: there are 300 million Americans. At 3 people per family, that’s 100 million families. I guess we are all “middle class.” What a dufus.
About half way through, I just couldn’t stand looking at him or listening to him. Mrs. Henkster, who does not follow politics so keenly, asked “where did they find this guy?”
Biden is right on this one. McCain supports a tax on health benefits. I don't give a damn about any tax credit to offset a tax hike I shouldn't have to pay in the first place.
Katie's has been closed for 15 years...
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