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McCain, Obama, Lieberman: AYE! to the Bailout
C-SPAN ^ | 2008-10-01

Posted on 10/01/2008 6:15:45 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

McCain, Obama, Lieberman, and Biden have voted for the bailout. No word yet on Graham.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: B4Ranch

Lou Dobbs(of the Commie News Network) is a well-paid rabble-rouser, nothing more and nothing less. IMHO, of course.


221 posted on 10/01/2008 8:08:41 PM PDT by MajorChaos (The more people I meet the more I like dogs)
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To: rabscuttle385

Is it too late for McCain to step down in favor of Romney?


222 posted on 10/01/2008 8:14:20 PM PDT by redk
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To: MajorChaos

You seem to assume that McCain is “really” against the bailout but had to vote for it because of expediency. The truth is is that he was FOR the bailout even when the polls showed that the vast majority of Americans were against it. As a result, only one point of view was represented in the MSM (and the last debate) If, on the other hand, McCain had opposed the bailout from the beginning, he could have helped fortify the no forces. They might still be the majority. He never even tried because he always thought the bailout was a good idea.


223 posted on 10/01/2008 8:15:31 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: MajorChaos
"Now McCain has got to get his message out who caused this."

If McCain had gotten the message out prior to the vote, he could have voted NAY, and forced Obama to follow HIS lead in order to promote CHANGE.

McCain may have been a war hero, POW, etc. but he is a political coward.

224 posted on 10/01/2008 8:19:07 PM PDT by deaconblues
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To: 4woodenboats
Save it for the debate, Joe.

Whatever you say, Dick.

225 posted on 10/01/2008 8:21:58 PM PDT by glock rocks ( Looters will be shot.)
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To: supercat

Are you talking about his statement on earmarks? I don’t know how he’s going to handle that. I do know this, earmarks and pork are two different things, and he should have made that clear when he first started talking about it. You may be able to say no to earmarks, but you are not going to get rid of pork. If you are holding to the belief that’s going to happen, there will never be a candidate to come along that you can support.

Some keep quoting the earmarks thing and forget that he’s running on “Country First.” When I heard him say “I will make them famous and you will know their names,” I took that to mean the names of the bills with earmarks. But others took it differently, so I may be wrong.

Anyway, my own thoughts on this, he’s a senator trying to make the right decision for a country in crisis that was created by those that are out to destroy him, and some of whom helped to create this crisis for their own gain - all the while they’re propping up a known fascist, who also had a heavy hand in creating this through his threats against financial institutions while representing ACORN.

We all know the sinister side of the dems, and particularly BHO, and we’re well-aware of their plans for this country. That alone should be enough to make us crawl over broken glass to vote for McCain. There’s a world of difference between John Sidney McCain and Barack Hussein Obama, and if folks would be honest, they know it to be true. Be disappointed, but don’t give up. To do that gives them victory.

Just look at how the two men have handled this. BHO has taken credit all along the way. McCain has been silent. BHO made a campaign speech from the floor of the Senate, promising that this bailout package is the beginning and not the end, and saying he wants to go further in protecting main street. McCain didn’t politicize it. He took the high road and he’s being lambasted for it.

I do understand about wanting him to fight and call these people out, but some things are best left to surrogates.

We don’t know all the details of this bill and/or ramifications of doing nothing, as there are dozens of so-called experts on either side of the issue that are even contradicting each other. But I trust he’s doing what he believes to be the best thing for the country, even if he loses the election.

As for how could he lose by voting against it...you know the answer to that. It would not matter how he voted, the MSM/dems would skewer him...if he votes for it, they have him on the earmarks quote....if he votes against it, what happened to “Country First.” It’s already happening. Just look around here for examples. I’ve seen threads here where some say he’d better vote for it, and others say he’d better not. The man can’t win!

Also, keep in mind that a lot of non-Wall Street folks livelihoods are affected by this in a trickle-down way, and they also vote. Again, the MSM/dems would never let him live it down...he wanted old folks to lose their pensions....he wanted young families to be out on the street....he wanted businesses not to meet payroll....he wanted college students to not make tuition.....you get the picture. They own the airwaves and they wouldn’t let up.

Regarding the additions to the Senate bill, I heard a senator today who said that many parts of this bill, not sure what those are, had previously been approved by the Senate, so he could not insist that those be taken out.

Don’t lose sight of the fact that this crisis was on the horizon, as Pres. Bush, John McCain, and others have tried to warn for years. Is it beyond reason to believe that it was manipulated into happening at a time of their choosing by those that have the power to do so? I believe it was, and we’re seeing the fallout that they were trying to achieve. We’ve been sucker-punched and it hurts, but we have to realize how important this election is and fight on.


226 posted on 10/01/2008 8:24:19 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia (POW/WOW 08)
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To: MajorChaos

Every once in a while he gets to the right of most FReepers. That;s what I like about the guy. He’s not scared to call Obama a fool which isn’t a phrase that I have heard on Fox. Yeah, he can get to ranting like Glenn Beck does.


227 posted on 10/01/2008 8:26:08 PM PDT by B4Ranch (I'd rather have a VP that can gut a Moose, than a President that wants to gut our Second Amendment!)
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To: Heart of Georgia
The bottom line is that both Obama and McCain suck. However, McCain sucks somewhat less than Obama. Vote for the RINO and not the Commie.
228 posted on 10/01/2008 8:26:13 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: adm5

I e-mailed boyj of them this morning. I pretty much concluded my e-mails with your sentiments to the appropriate ones. I was politer, but now I wish I was’nt. Hell, I got out of California to get away from the lefty thumb suckers surrounding me there -— I am now extremely disappointed in these spineless whores, especially considering the showing my GOP congresscritter made on Monday.


229 posted on 10/01/2008 8:36:13 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Mcwhatshisname/PALIN, '08!!!)
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To: omega4179

Played??? Hell, we just got rolled to the tune of $800Bil, buddy.


230 posted on 10/01/2008 8:38:07 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Mcwhatshisname/PALIN, '08!!!)
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To: Americanwolfsbrother

McCain just lost my vote.

WOW, I didn’t think I’d say that.


231 posted on 10/01/2008 8:41:10 PM PDT by Carling (I'm a Typical White Person)
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To: Wallace T.

“The bottom line is that both Obama and McCain suck. However, McCain sucks somewhat less than Obama.”

That’s just it. I can’t see voting 3rd party on this. Obama is just to damn scary.


232 posted on 10/01/2008 8:43:33 PM PDT by redk
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To: rabscuttle385

The audacity...

In the senate this evening, Diane Feinstein said that she had received over 91,000 calls to her office, with 85,000 of those calls against the bail-out.

Feinstein said that unfortunately her constituents either didn’t understand the situation the country was in, or they didn’t understand what the bill was really all about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdwh_k6ne38

As an illuminated and elegant minded senator, Feinstein said it was up to her [and her fellow senators] to make difficult decisions that sometimes fly in the face of the opinion of the people they represent.

The arrogance and the condescension that spews out of D.C. is seemingly endless. The elite politicians [and those they work for] have nothing but scorn for us. We continue to be burned by those who are supposed to represent us.

You can call, and you can e.mail, but will they listen?

Obviously Feinstein and her cohorts did not.

Because THEY KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR US, DON’T THEY?

Pray for those congressmen and women who stood strong in the House on Monday. Pray that they remain steadfast in their opposition to this unconstitutional, power-grabbing, stinking, anti-American piece of legislation.


233 posted on 10/01/2008 8:44:18 PM PDT by Third Person
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To: L,TOWM

Before it’s over that number will rise above $5 Trillion.


234 posted on 10/01/2008 8:49:13 PM PDT by B4Ranch (I'd rather have a VP that can gut a Moose, than a President that wants to gut our Second Amendment!)
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To: Wallace T.
This board is full of "fickle" supporters. I concede McCain is not Ronald Reagan. He would probably be better off if some of you DID abandon the fight. The first time things don't go according to the plan, you bail. Wars are not won according to the initial Op Order.... the dynamics of the battlefield often call for changes in tactics..Improvise..Overcome and Adapt. If you act like a robot and follow the initial plan and ignore the changes that are in front of you...you die. Your nothing more than a robot. It's obvious from his comments that he doesn't like this bill, but he's trying to win the war and in war you sometimes have to do things that are less than desirable. This is not the "John Wayne" version of war...this is the real deal. This is a situation where you have to "Live to fight another day"......don't loose sight of the real enemy that will take us to socialism quicker than a trillion dollar bail out (that we actually might get some money back). <\Rant Off>
235 posted on 10/01/2008 8:49:28 PM PDT by PsyOps
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To: redk
“The bottom line is that both Obama and McCain suck. However, McCain sucks somewhat less than Obama.” That’s just it. I can’t see voting 3rd party on this. Obama is just to damn scary.

The classic definition of insanity is performing the same action over and over, but expecting different results. I agree that Obama will be a disaster. But I also think McCain would place a close second.

It's time to change the batter.

236 posted on 10/01/2008 8:49:33 PM PDT by Kowdawg
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To: Heart of Georgia
We don’t know all the details of this bill and/or ramifications of doing nothing

If the House of CarDS (credit default swaps) would have collapsed without the bailout, it's going to collapse even with it. The question is whether we want to allow 700 dollars of real money to flow into the CDS markets, to prop up the illusion of trillions of dollars in imaginary money.

237 posted on 10/01/2008 8:50:16 PM PDT by supercat
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To: B4Ranch
Before it’s over that number will rise above $5 Trillion.

No amount of money will suffice to make a pyramid scheme solvent. The more money is pumped in, the bigger the crash.

238 posted on 10/01/2008 8:51:30 PM PDT by supercat
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To: deaconblues
He must not have had his “magic veto pen” handy......

Seems I remember him nearly fumbling it in the debate, too.

239 posted on 10/01/2008 8:51:48 PM PDT by Kowdawg
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To: glock rocks
Whatever you say, Dick.

Good, then we're agreed. You'll stop reperesenting the condenscending, sexist sleeezebag contingent of sidewalk surfers and stop distracting the adults that are trying to keep this country from descending into full on Marxism.

And I'll go back to ignoring you.

240 posted on 10/01/2008 8:52:50 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (W T H !!)
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