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McCain, Obama, Lieberman: AYE! to the Bailout
C-SPAN ^ | 2008-10-01

Posted on 10/01/2008 6:15:45 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

McCain, Obama, Lieberman, and Biden have voted for the bailout. No word yet on Graham.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; acorn; antimccaintrolls; bailout; corruption; dailykostrolls; dodd; election2008; financialcrisis; frank; graft; mccain; mccaintruthfile; mcfail; mclame; obama; obamatruthfile; pelosi; pence; rats; rinos; rinosforobama; sellout; tammanyhall; taxhike; teapotdome; wallstreet; zer0bama
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To: supercat
Whatever collapse would have occurred without the bailout will still occur, but it will be worse and we'll have $700B+ less of available credit in the aftermath than we would have had without it.

It's useless talking to these sheeple. 100 years from now in Communist Amerika, students will learn why citizens of the then free United States of America gave up their Democracy & Capitalism without a fight.

The answer in the very back of that Communist textbook: Stupid Americans believed a false promise that if they agreed to Socialism, then numbers on their investment statements would remain or grow. Or in other words: MONEY.

George Washington is rolling in his grave about right now.

141 posted on 10/01/2008 7:03:43 PM PDT by adm5 (YOU CANNOT FIX CAPITALISM WITH SOCIALISM! -Glenn Beck)
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To: queenkathy
so obama will be your choice? Not voting for McCain is a vote for Obama

Apparently some here vastly prefer the Obama/Reid/Pelosi socalism that will make the rescue bill look like small potatoes, and will truly kill the economy rather than save it. Let's toss in the potential S. Ct. nominations too. Of course they know a vote not for McCain is a vote for Obama, they just don't care, just like they didn't care in '06. Now they just want to finish their mission. The logic is to poke one's eye out to spite the face. They are the Dems best friend and they can't even see it.

Even Ronald Reagan knew when to pick a fight, and when to save it for another day and compromise with Tip O'Neil. I'm starting to think many here really don't care about the issues as much as they claim but just like to belly ache yell and scream like the Move On crowd.

142 posted on 10/01/2008 7:04:01 PM PDT by The Hound Passer
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To: ABQHispConservative
And we need someone in the White House who will do it. We will in Sarah Palin.

I hope you have noticed that Palin is not running for president. This is McCain vs. Obama, not Palin vs. Biden.

Perhaps you are watching a different election than me ?

143 posted on 10/01/2008 7:05:12 PM PDT by jbarntt (Tagline:optional, printed after your name on post): -30-)
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To: MikeWUSAF

I’m sorry. You should have told me before I posted that that you were in favor of the bailout.The end result of what the senate and the rest are doing will make government bigger and drag this country further away from the constitution.


144 posted on 10/01/2008 7:05:30 PM PDT by mefistofelerevised
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To: rabscuttle385
I have a theory that this whole crisis was a set-up play by the Democrats from the start.

I feel that the Democrats just could have planned to bring the economic situation to the place where it is now, at this point in time, knowing that their tracks were covered well enough, and it would have a negative effect on McCain no matter what he did.

And, even if there was the possibility that some of the Dems were outed for their participation and support of unethical and unscrupulous practices concerning Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac (et al), and the huge profits they have made through their relationships with those entities, it would take a lot of time and proof to get it all to light for all of the public to believe. Since there isn't a lot of time, I think they just rolled the dice on this and took their chances.

I believe they figure it would be/was worth the risk and figure it no personal repercussions would actually happen, at least not in the 40 days left to election, In the meantime, they would continue to totally blame the Republicans. Blame them for the crisis, blame them for not supporting the bailout, etc. All while Obama's position in the polls keeps rising.

I am sure they felt that after this is over, McCain would have been wounded enough by bad press and when Obama is in the WH, and more Dems are elected to Congress, those same Dems. will be safe again, protected by the big "o."

No matter how many times there are questions about Dodd's, or Obama's involvement all along, and how they profited, the Dems know that any Obama supporters won't believe any finger-pointing at them now anyway. People who are in his camp Obama are like love sick fools, all prepped and ready for the marriage to take place and no one will convince them to change their minds.

The campaign has moved to the point where no one will consider any truth about Obama, or Dodd or their cronies to be anything but a smear. So the Democrats have figured to take advantage of that mind-set and try to reel in the independents or non-commited voters with this new scare tactic issue. It is working, the polls are showing that.

They have created a situation for McCain where he was damned if he did, and damned if he didn't. Obama, in the meantime has been quiet, kept safely out of the Frey, and is smirking right along. His people ran interference for him after this pass, and he is heading toward the goal line.

I support McCain. I don't like the bailout/rescue plan, whatever name they are giving this. But McCain can't block everything that is proposed and the press and the Dems will toast him even if he is 100% right to disagree.

No matter how this ends up, no one should opt to change their vote for McCain. If you do, you have let the Democrats win the game, not just with Obama. You will have secured that not one of the Democrat politicians will face any consequences for this and the future for taking these people responsible for this crisis to task will be forfeited!!! Obama, you can be sure, will not let any one of them face any questioning or outing from their comfy Senate seats.

With McCain in the White House, I am sure the investigations into this will cause a great deal of discomfort and eviction of those accountable.

145 posted on 10/01/2008 7:05:38 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: supercat

This was like a passion play. The fed let fail who the fed allowed to let fail and they saved who had to be saved. AIG is in every corner of commerce insuring transactions, people, assets you name it. You lose that and every conceivably stops. Refineries stop accepting contract people, Grocery stores stop accepting drivers you name it. Because of liability. So that’s just too scary. The investment banks, they got crushed. Gone. The fed let them die and called a time when they knew it was time to call one.


146 posted on 10/01/2008 7:05:55 PM PDT by kinghorse (Is market intervention a moral hazard if it stops people who arent forced sellers from selling out?)
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To: kinghorse
It’s a torniquet. These banks can trot their bad assets over to the local fed master and stop the bleeding. These assets will be off their books and deeded over to Uncle Sam for auction or cold storage. The investment banks are done. They have already been taken out and shot. It’s the traditional banks we are trying to save.

How is it a tourniquet? The house of CarDS will still be there, will continue to gobble up any money which is injected into the market, and will still crash when the cash flow fails to meet its exponentially-increasing needs.

147 posted on 10/01/2008 7:07:01 PM PDT by supercat
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To: ABQHispConservative
at least ACORN isn’t getting the 20% or so

Are you sure? I didn't hear what they took out, never got a chance to read this last one - or all of the one before!

Are we still bailing out foreign banks, and overriding the judge in the Exxon Valdez, being forced to buy houses for bums, etc. etc. etc.....................?

148 posted on 10/01/2008 7:07:15 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (W T H !!)
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To: supercat

We swapped goodwill for equity. It’ll be up to the rest of the world to decide if they want to still buy in.


149 posted on 10/01/2008 7:09:20 PM PDT by kinghorse (Is market intervention a moral hazard if it stops people who arent forced sellers from selling out?)
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To: 4woodenboats

I thought so, but with all the crap they put in, who knows anymore.


150 posted on 10/01/2008 7:10:06 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (Socialism has ruined Latin America, let's not let it ruin the USA!)
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To: DataDink

The Democratic and Republican Parties have become merely opposite wings of the same bird, and it’s the American people who are getting the bird as our elected officials serve their corporate masters and the special interest groups that dominate both parties.
Lou Dobbs


151 posted on 10/01/2008 7:10:15 PM PDT by B4Ranch (I'd rather have a VP that can gut a Moose, than a President that wants to gut our Second Amendment!)
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To: Galactica

I agree with your statement. I’ll be there are trolls hauling in a lot of Freeper fish with this thread.

Sen. McCain didn’t start the fire, but he knows that he has to slash and burn a few acres to save the the rest of the forrest.

WHEN he’s president, this sort of bail out won’t happen again because the corruption will be swept out. IF Obama is President, the gov’t will do nothing but bail out beltway bandits.


152 posted on 10/01/2008 7:10:15 PM PDT by SaltyJoe (Pro Life from conception to natural death)
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To: jbarntt
Folks get real, McCain is McCain. I don't see him moving to the left if he is President like Bush. Hopefully he will surprise us and move further to the right. Fact is we will lose a bit more ground in Congress. Can you even imagine what that means with Bambi as President?. A very real possibility we will never recover once Bambi has feed the masses at the Teat of Government. Like it or not McCain is our savior, where else are you gonna move to?
153 posted on 10/01/2008 7:11:14 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: rabscuttle385

No matter which party any elected person claims, they ALL just put us in a leaking boat and pushed that boat into the rapids.

We’re “bailing out” the rotten, scum sucking, lying, treasonous THIEVES who get to keep the money they stole from US!

Bend over and grab your ankles, fellow taxpayers!


154 posted on 10/01/2008 7:12:03 PM PDT by Just Lori (Life is fragile. Handle with prayer.)
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To: queenkathy
We DO need to start calling loudly for Frank and Dodd to resign. Immediately. They didn’t do their job, that’s a fact

You are wrong, they did their job very well. They wrecked the economy and now are are close to gaining complete control over the financial sector. They are doing it with considerable support from Republicans, like McCain.

Saul Alinsky is smiling

155 posted on 10/01/2008 7:13:13 PM PDT by jbarntt (Tagline:optional, printed after your name on post): -30-)
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To: TaMoDee

74 to 25. Wonder who the lone absentee was.


156 posted on 10/01/2008 7:14:00 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: supercat

I was commenting on your comment to the resident sheep.

It’s clear that your eyes are wide open.


157 posted on 10/01/2008 7:15:14 PM PDT by FReepapalooza (Joshua 3:4 ..."for ye have not passed this way heretofore.")
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To: llandres

Probably Ted Kennedy.


158 posted on 10/01/2008 7:15:30 PM PDT by Kellykoop (All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of people.)
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To: daddydoo

Your’e right!


159 posted on 10/01/2008 7:15:59 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: Sunnyflorida; 6323cd; roamer_1; AmericanInTokyo; 383rr; djsherin; GunsareOK; calcowgirl; ...

OMG! McCain is speaking live on C-SPAN right now about “serving the common good.” BARF!!!


160 posted on 10/01/2008 7:16:09 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (May God save the Republic and her citizens.)
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