Posted on 09/30/2008 4:40:55 AM PDT by Liz
Pelosi savaged Pres Bush, blaming "right-wing ideology" as the sole cause of the nation's fiscal turmoil......Pelosi, Barney Frank and Rahm Emanuel immediately blamed the GOP for the bill's defeat..... The fact is, 95 Democrats - 40% of the party's House membership - voted against the bill. Pelosi controls the chamber - and couldn't even deliver her own members. How humiliating is that? Republicans had long-standing philosophical objections to a massive expansion of gov't power over the economy. Pelosi's boneheaded speech didn't help matters. But what of disloyal Democrats? Clearly, they'd bought the demagogic rhetoric that the $700B rescue plan constituted a "bailout of Wall Street." Bush and Paulsen, on down, have repeatedly made clear, this is a rescue of Main Street from the crippling effects of a potential meltdown of the nation's credit markets. .....as they chanted the mantra of bipartisanship, Democrats worked mightily to spin the crisis for political advantage. Yet there's an old political maxim: Don't gloat before they vote - and Pelosi did just that. Now lawmakers are at each other's throats and Wall Street is in panic mode. Heck of a job, Nancy.
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That and Nancy is a flat out liar.
What a lieing, arrogant squirt of penguin excrement she is.
It’s even worse than that. Read this post from yesterday. The Dems actually worked to defeat the bill.
Chris Van Holland, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee chairman before the vote told 16 vulnerable democrats this November to vote NO to save their collective asses and was heard stating they plan to use the outcome of the vote against Republicans.
It gets worse.
5 Democrat Committee Chairmen voted NO while Pelosi viciously attacked Republicans on the floor for not voting for the Paulson/Frank plan! Even a sub-committee chair on the banking committee,a democrat under Frank voted NO!
Obama failed miserably, he couldn`t even convince south side Chicago Representatives to vote yes !. B. Rush and J.Jackson jr. both voted NO!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2093560/posts
I watched CNNand MSNBC and according to them this is Bushes bill and Republicans are in charge of congress and unpatriotic. I had a dream where voters realized what a mistake they made putting Pelosi in a position like that.
Great video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU6fuFrdCJY
The ‘Rats wanted one big defeat on the bill that they could blame on Republicans, with a servile and compliant media to help them do so.....
Now they will come back with an even more bloated bill with all the ACORN slush funds and other goodies for the left, they will pass it on a party line vote, the useless Senate will pass it along to the WH, and they will just dare President Bush to veto it. He will sign it and we will end up with the most bloated bailout that the PelosicRATs wanted all along.
“... told 16 vulnerable democrats this November to vote NO to save their collective asses and was heard stating they plan to use the outcome of the vote against Republicans.”
Americans are 9 to 1 against the plan, republicans voted the way Americans wanted, and rats will use that against republicans?
That makes no sense. Of course little that rats do makes sense. Go for it, rats.
Look. The bill failed because representatives got an ear full from their voters back home. If they felt vulnerable on the vote yesterday those same reps are going to be even more vulnerable if they vote for a bloated package with the same bailout language. I’m betting Nancy won’t be able to corral enough of her own to pass this unless some Republicans go along and there’s sure to be a lot less of them voting for Nancy’s pork bill. I’m not convinced she can get her version through.
It was even worse than you say. I saw Karl Rove on TV last night explaining it.
He said while Pelosi was sticking the knife in, all GOP members were watching the vote tally board. First, all of Pelosi’s close friends voted no. Then the Committee chairman essentially all voted no. Next the members that were in close races voted no. Next the sub-committee chairs voted no. Next many members of Frank’s own Finance Committee voted no. Pelosi’s droning on the whole time. By the time the GOP members were to vote they said the heck with that, the heck with her, the heck with this dopey bill. And the Dem handmaidens in the press, even Forbes mag this AM, all buy the story that the GOP destroyed the nation.
Franky, (no pun intended) it’s a miracle conservatives ever win any elections.
There are some people who think that when you win a victory it is really a trap.
It will give us a rallying point. The longer this is delayed and the economy doesn’t collapse, the better for capitalism. We could cut into their majority if they keep this up.
I don’t know if they have the spine to do this. The donks who voted *no* are either vulnerable/ran in conservative Districts or are CBC members who want a pig trough.
The idea that they could protect their own and blame it in the GOP w/MSM assistance is being trashed in the media. With the Internet, every media outlet has a comments section under the stories and every electronic media outlet has an email from the audience feature. They simply cannot go over the heads of the people any longer. I have been told that even NPR gets a lot of Hell No! comments.
It has gotten to the point where so many of us know or have family members who work on Wall Street or for hedge funds and were raking in the money in both salaries and investments and were arrogant about it, that it is going to be very difficult, IMO, to drum up any sympathy for the Masters of the Universe. A lot of very average people got very rich by association and were cocky about it, while the rest of us were tightening our belts.
As for the pig trough contingent: it is such an old story and the people are as tired of supporting that as they are of the wizards of Wall Street.
My critter has trotted out the “half of my constituents said NO and the other half said HELL NO”. This is a liberal District, too. Kind is a good little water carrier and I haven’t checked his vote, but I always assume he does whatever Nancy says.
What does 'essentially voted not' mean, did he vote yes OR no?
The 95 Dems know that they can put a Prom dress on a pig and it still doesn’t make it the Prom Queen. 95 Dems saw the handwriting on the wall and knew that they would be looking for bew jobs in January if they passed that pig of a bailout bill.
So, they joined the Republicans ho were LISTENING to the American people and didn’t want this bailout.
That pretty much makes 9% Nancy Pelousy a loser as Speaker of the House and unlikely to still have the position when the new Congress is sworn in in January.
Buh-bye, Nancy. We hardly knew ya (thank GOD!!).
I’m afraid you are correct. The next bill will be worse, and the demo-dupes will all vote for it. I do love the fact that the republicans gave her a big middle finger, but it won’t make a difference in the long run.
Those 95 probably voted against the bill because it was not liberal enough!
My gut feeling is that Congress will pass a bill. Now, will the next version try to bring over some of the Republicans or some of the 95 Dems that did not vote Yes? My fear is that the next version will attempt to bring over more of the Dems, but then will it lose the support of some of the Republicans? Hopefully so.
I just wish that the Congressmen could act like grown-ups for once, come out on TV and tell the American people that they screwed up big time on this one, BOTH parties. Tell the people that those who stood in the way of reform, namely Barney Frank (House Chairman, Committee on Financial Services) and Chris Dodd (Senate Chairman, Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs) have been removed from their Chairman positions. THEN they can say that for their part in helping to repay this Country, ALL Congressmen will forego one year’s salary.
Currently, each sitting Senator is paid $165,200 per year. Each sitting Representative is paid $169,300. So, that equals ($165,200 * 100) + ($169,300 * 435) = $9.02 million. Chump change when talking about a $700 BILLION bailout, but definitely a little symbolic at the very least.
Obama is now THE leader of the Congressional Democrats. Lay the blame where it belongs.
While he was out, dithering and dallying, agonizing over whether to vote “present” or “absent,” his troopers in the Congress had to make the tough choice between “yes” or “no”.
When Obama finally came out lukewarmly in favor of the Democrats’ own plan, 95 Democrats walked right out the back door.
Leadership? ...Nope.
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