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1 posted on 09/29/2008 4:32:53 AM PDT by CE2949BB
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I don’t (sad day) I hope the house repubs remember who they are working for


2 posted on 09/29/2008 4:34:17 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (“Barack Obama needs to grow up.")
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I can’t bear to watch - besides, I’m at work.


3 posted on 09/29/2008 4:35:29 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An inadequately policed Conservative)
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Guess he wants to get on before the markets open

What BS —If the markets can’t wait for a debated bill then they shouldn’t survive


4 posted on 09/29/2008 4:36:47 AM PDT by uncbob
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Says Congress reached an agreement yesterday...bold bill...appreciates leadership on both sides of the aisle..

..this addresses the root cause...requires guarantee program..oversight...ensures failed execs don’t get windfall..


5 posted on 09/29/2008 4:37:09 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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Lemme guess. He’s selling us a boatload. I’m sick of the whole bunch.


8 posted on 09/29/2008 4:38:08 AM PDT by itsthejourney (Sarah-cuda IS the right reason)
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This is just crazy! I said in 2006 that the housing bubble was going to burst! We were living in California and I saw people who made $80K a year getting home loans for houses costing $799K and I said THAT WILL NOT WORK FOR VERY LONG! I guess I should have told Congress! I guess I gave them credit for being smarter than they are! LOL


9 posted on 09/29/2008 4:38:26 AM PDT by buffyt (Wall Street would finance Satan's global takeover if they could make a profit.)
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go away Bush. the whole country hates you now :(


13 posted on 09/29/2008 4:39:45 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Just let Sarah be Sarah!)
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Get to a TV and watch it, if you have the stomach for it.

I do not. I've got CMT on the TV. One can only look at a trainwreck for so long before being overcome by the carnage. I have to look away.

15 posted on 09/29/2008 4:40:32 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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The phrase I’ve heard a couple times that makes me think they’ll still be “parachutes” for the execs is: The execs will not receive compensation from YOUR TAX DOLLARS.

That makes me think the companies themselves will still use funds to compensate the execs.

My husband’s read most of the bill and we still don’t have an answer, but why does the phrase “FROM YOUR TAX DOLLARS” seem to be in every explanation about compensation to CEOs.


16 posted on 09/29/2008 4:40:38 AM PDT by Dawn531
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Give George Bush some credit. He’s the only lame duck in history that was able to cram an additional $700 billion through Congress in the last four months of his presidency.


17 posted on 09/29/2008 4:40:40 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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Same ol’ same ol’. Claims to get to the “root of the problem”, but he fails to even mention that the root of the problem is the government-mandated generous offering of credit to deadbeats that have a snowball’s chance in Key West of paying back these loans.


19 posted on 09/29/2008 4:41:38 AM PDT by meyer (Go, Sarah, Go!!)
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This whole thing is a helluva a gift to the Democrats. Bend over and prepare thyself for the great Obamessiah!


20 posted on 09/29/2008 4:41:52 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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He looks VERY tired. Referred to European banks. Most European countries, with the exception of Germany, have economies that are in the tank (socialism at work). Those countries cannot withstand bank collapses as well as we can. A weak Europe is a huge security risk.


22 posted on 09/29/2008 4:44:32 AM PDT by randita
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So while the House website is down to show what’s in the legislation, we have Tokyo Rose on the TV set?


24 posted on 09/29/2008 4:46:49 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Fannie + Freddie = Democrat Cronies [Dodd and Obama -- the LegisLOOTers])
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I don't honestly know what is going to happen with this bail out package.

But I do know one thing for certain. The Rats are going to attack the Republicans for the situation we are in now and McCain et al are going to let them steam roll us. I'm just sick.

They smell blood. It's all about CHANGE!!

sw

25 posted on 09/29/2008 4:47:11 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (The Gov't can't legislate happiness)
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Margin Call: Leveraged Failure, Taxpayer Bailout

Sep 21st, 2008 | By Jonathan Golob | Category: Economics, Featured Articles

Via the Wall Street Journal:

Deleveraging started with securities tied to subprime mortgages, where defaults started rising rapidly in 2006. But the deleveraging process has now spread well beyond, to commercial real estate and auto loans to the short-term commitments on which investment banks rely to fund themselves. In the first quarter, financial-sector borrowing slowed to a 5.1% growth rate, about half of the average from 2002 to 2007. Household borrowing has slowed even more, to a 3.5% pace….

Hedge funds could be among the next problem areas. Many rely on borrowed money to amplify their returns. With banks under pressure, many hedge funds are less able to borrow this money now, pressuring returns. Meanwhile, there are growing indications that fewer investors are shifting into hedge funds while others are pulling out. Fund investors are dealing with their own problems: Many have taken out loans to make their investments and are finding it more difficult now to borrow.

The Wall Street Journal is right about one thing: the massive deleveraging of the whole global financial system is at the core of our present crisis.

What is leveraging? Investing with borrowed money.

When you’ve gotten those “Low Introductory Rate!” credit card offers, maybe you’ve been tempted to get the card, max out the cash advance, take that money and put it somewhere safe. Say the card has a 3% interest rate. You put the money in a 5% a year high-yield savings account. When the credit card rate is about to jump up, you take the money out of the savings account, pay off the card and pocket the difference. That’s leveraging.

If you’re mid-scheme, and the card’s rate unexpectedly jumped, you’d be doomed. Particularly if those low rate card offers are much harder to find. That’s deleveraging.


Our bailout of incompetence in the financial industry (otherwise known at the overcompensated kids who cheated off you in science and math classes) so far has three big parts:
1. Stop short selling of only certain favored stocks.

2. Buy up “toxic” debt, like the impossible to value mortgage-backed securities, at something like 40-cents to a dollar. We might be getting a good deal, or we might get hosed. Nobody, and I mean nobody, knows which is the case. You can shiver now.

3. Throw up to $50 billion of taxpayer dollars into Money Market funds, hoping to shore them up.

Last week, I wrote about a Money Market fund breaking the buck.

While there are many kinds of Money Market funds, the ones suffering the most (so far) lent money to the very oldest of investment banks. These were viewed as “safe” investments, due to the age and “respectability” of banks like Lehman Brothers.

Well, what will our fifty billion dollars be covering? Leveraged investment schemes, of course! What follows is a grossly simplified scheme of the sort of leveraged investment strategy Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and the ilk did with borrowed money from a pool declared to be super safe. In truth, many times the actual places this borrowed money went were more hideous, more dark and less responsible.

The favored investors come to an investment bank, or hedge fund, and ask you to take their million dollars and make it big, with minimal risk. The investment bank uses their good credit to borrow money from clueless investors at a low rate–from investments made into Money Market funds. These funds pay low interest rates to the investors, because they are “safe” investments. We’ll say for this example, 5% a year.

The bank then takes the investor’s $1 million, with a borrowed $19 million–or $29 million, or $39 million or whatever. $19 million in this example–and invests the pool of $20 million and lend it out–buying up mortgages that pay 6% a year, in this example.

If everything goes well, since the mortgage holders are paying you 6%, there is a tidy return (the dark gray) to be split. Part goes to pay the 5% owed (the dark blue) to the Money Market fund investors. The rest goes to the holder of the original $1 million–to the tune of a whopping 26% annual yield (the dark brown.)

Well, what if the mortgages don’t pay as well as hoped? The bank’s original pool of $20 million invested ($1 million of the investor, $19 million borrowed) is now less than the start.

This is a huge problem, as the Money Market people must be paid back both the principle and interest–or the bank’s credit rating, and access to this pool of money to borrow from, will be lost. So, when this is rare, the investment bank covered the difference itself, making it appear to the Money Market investors that their money was not lost.

The higher the leveraging–the more money borrowed to that collected from an investor–the greater the chance that the money borrowed cannot be paid back. From the Great Depression to the late 1990’s, this ratio was strictly regulated, and kept low. Gramm–the architect of McCain’s economic plan–was key in getting rid of any limit on the ratio.

Well, what if many of these schemes all fail at once, like happened this month? The banks ability to make up the difference would be overwhelmed. The Money Market managers would have to be told their money was gone. The bank’s credit would be trashed. The whole system crashes and burns. Deleveraging.

What to do? Should these banks–and what real social benefit is being done by these schemes?–be bailed out by the taxpayers, their losses covered?

This weekend–after a brief detour through the responsible path and the collapse of Lehman Brothers–the answer turned out to be yes.

Our wallets are being raided, to the tune of about a trillion dollars. To put this in perspective, the entire economic output of the United States, for one year, is about ten trillion dollars. One tenth of an entire year’s work is being poured into the crumbling foundations of Wall Street. And, this possibly will be insufficient to do more than temporarily slow the cascading failure.

Can anyone tell me why banks like this deserve to be saved?
Why highly leveraged schemes like this are in any way desirable?


27 posted on 09/29/2008 4:47:49 AM PDT by XR7
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PRESIDENT BUSH! BE A MAN! DEFEND YOURSELF AND YOUR PARTY!

SCREW THE NEW TONE THAT IS DESTROYING US!


42 posted on 09/29/2008 4:54:56 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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Read my lips...et al. It runs in the family.


51 posted on 09/29/2008 5:01:12 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Cure CINOism- Write in proven conservatives at all levels on the ballot)
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LIVE Bush to speak on bailout

Exodus 3:3 And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt.

L'shanah tovah!

55 posted on 09/29/2008 5:05:05 AM PDT by Ezekiel (Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.)
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Before Bush choked on the pretzel (January 13, 2002) he seemed destined to be a great President. After that, it appears as if his brain was replaced by a brain of a Democrat. All the really crazy stuff from Harriet Miers to the greatest expansion of the welfare state since FDR seems to have followed the pretzel incident.


65 posted on 09/29/2008 5:10:58 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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