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1 posted on 09/27/2008 12:05:00 AM PDT by RatherBiased.com
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Yep. What obama was basically saying was “So what, everyone’s got a bracelet.” His intent was to cheapen the value of McCain’s bracelet, make it look like a commodity, just another piece of jewelry. The contrast with McCain, who is humbly honored to wear the name of that fallen soldier, was stunning.


96 posted on 09/27/2008 3:25:55 AM PDT by gotribe (The right pick!)
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"Jim, let me just make a point. I've got a bracelet too. From, Sergeant, uh, uh, from the mother of, uh, Sergeant, Ryan David Jopek."

That should be devastating. Of course, the mainstream media will bury it. The blogosphere and talk radio should take off with it. You will know that the word has gotten out if the media start to run stories explaining away this gaffe. They will ignore it in hopes no one noticed, but if too many people notice, the media will make a lame attempt to help Obama in damage control. It will be sort of like what happened during the Clinton scandals - the media eventually came out with stories about how adultery is really a healthy thing and that great leaders always have affairs, and how wonderful it is for a 50 year old man to be in such good physical shape to be so attractive, ad nauseum.

101 posted on 09/27/2008 3:47:25 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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Watching the Friends, the talking points are that it was a draw...Barry did great on the economy and Mac on foreign policy. Puleeze. They are finally showing the bracelet story—cringe worthy—says Steve. Dr. Lamont Hill said that Mac won. Mike Allen says Barry but that viewers will say it’s a draw.


104 posted on 09/27/2008 4:10:17 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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So let’s keep an eye on him and see if he wears the bracelet all the time, now. Or only when he’s debating.


105 posted on 09/27/2008 4:30:09 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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This “bracelet” clip and the Kissinger gaffe may be the “gotcha” moments that people will remember of the debate.

At first, the audience starts to think that Obama is joking, and there is a smattering of cynical laughter. Obama recovers badly and goes ahead finishing his anti-war point.


106 posted on 09/27/2008 4:35:44 AM PDT by WilliamReading
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I got several bracelets... Let me look at my handy dandy list here and I’ll tell you about all of them... uh, uh, where’s my list?


107 posted on 09/27/2008 4:36:06 AM PDT by beaware (Before we can drill in ANWR, we need to drill in DC!)
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I wonder how long before that appears on a T-shirt?


108 posted on 09/27/2008 4:37:36 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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The incident proved Obama is an antiwar pacifist who lacks any ability to be Commander in Chief of a war machine.

The mother of Ryan David Jopek is a Cindy Sheehan clone and should have no place or standing in a Presidential campaign.


110 posted on 09/27/2008 4:37:53 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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bttt


112 posted on 09/27/2008 4:41:29 AM PDT by Nascar Dad (Nobama!)
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Yep, he sure has a bracelet...Says: I’m living proof that Indians did screw buffalo’s ! ! !


122 posted on 09/27/2008 5:16:39 AM PDT by unojook
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It should have been pointed out that John McCain has met many people who have returned the bracelet they wore with his own name on it when he was a POW.

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124 posted on 09/27/2008 5:19:31 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (The Gov't can't legislate happiness)
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Of course, Obama was given the bracelet just before the debate began by one of his advisers. He was grandstanding again since he was exhausted with very little sleep, after having been to 57 states with one more to go......

And the press still has their blindfolds and ear plugs planted, while the general public is still unaware that a monster is being crammed down their throats with a spoon.


126 posted on 09/27/2008 5:25:35 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Sara Palin; The Orca in a bay of Democrat Belugas!)
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127 posted on 09/27/2008 5:26:23 AM PDT by usmcobra (Obama : Pandora's box in arabic, filled with all evil that men can do and void of hope)
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My ALL TIME fav is Al Gore’s...”What about Dingell-Norwood”!!! We STILL use that around this house!


132 posted on 09/27/2008 5:46:11 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Ryan Jopek's grandparents live in my small, north central Wisconsin town. His parents live in the next town over. Obama's fumbling over Ryan's name will not be looked upon favorably here.

I'll let you know how it's reported in the local paper today.

133 posted on 09/27/2008 5:50:36 AM PDT by jellybean (Write in Fred! - Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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Note the difference in attitude and demeanor:


134 posted on 09/27/2008 5:59:11 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Best comment on this was by another FReeper on the debate thread: (paraphrasing)

"I have a bracelet,too. It say Livestrong.

136 posted on 09/27/2008 6:08:16 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter. Before the late bell. When I close the door.)
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IMO, neither candidate did well. Obama threw at least four opportunites out there for McCain to hit out of the park. He did not. For all the hoopla about the McCain return to Washington to help get a bail out bill in place, his remarks about the economy were anemic. Obama was no better. Considering that was the topic of the day, neither candidate impressed me.

McCain, for the most part spoke in complete sentences that made some sense—even when one didn’t agree with what he said. All Obama did was string together a bunch of dem talking points. The result were incoherent strings of words often without periods.

But the details of the so-called debate could be picked over for hours. McCain had a last chance to nail Obama at the end when asked why he thought he was ready to be president. He should have alluded to his vast experience. Then he should have pointed at Obama and said something like “you, sir, have zero experience in anything remotely resembling what it takes to be president. You have not had any meaningful responsibility by which to judge whether or not you could be a credible president.”

There is no viable Onada response to that. In addition, it could have set up Palin for the veep debate. Without a doubt our pal Lehrer will ask each candidate why they’re qualified for veep. Palin, properly set up by McCain, could respond that she has better credentials for veep than Onada has for president. Of course, she can still do that. But it would have so much more powerful if McCain had set it up properly.

I did not see fighter pilot McCain last night. The Onada camp is attempting to smear Palin as well as McCain. They’re saying the most vile things and he’s playing pitty pat with the guy.

And then there was McCain pandering to dems announcing the hospitalization of the “lion of the senate”, Kennedy. I almost puked. This guy killed a woman and never took responsibility. Nor was he ever punished for it.

Sure, I’m gonna vote the McCain/Palin ticket. But my vote is really for Palin. Choosing her was the best thing I can think of McCain has done—outside his Vietnam War experience. Of course, if he hadn’t selected a conservative running mate he would never have gotten people like me to vote for him. I was ready to vote for anyone running as a conservative. In the absense of that I was going to write my own name in.

Conclusion: McCain’s job last night was to show up Onada for the empty suit he is. He did not. Now, this nothing may very well have a shot at being elected next president of the US. This should have been a slam dunk and McCain failed. It would be instructive to know what McCain thought his job was last night.

Do I sound angry? You bet I am. But yes, Mr. McCain—I’ll vote your ticket. However, my vote is really for Gov. Palin.


143 posted on 09/27/2008 6:36:54 AM PDT by dools007
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Was Obummer using his cell phone text messenger as a tele- prompter during the debate? He kept looking down at the podium a lot last night.


149 posted on 09/27/2008 7:04:42 AM PDT by WhirlwindAttack (Browncoats rule.)
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I HAVE A BRACELET TOO... !
152 posted on 09/27/2008 9:53:47 AM PDT by traumer
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