Tuned in to hear Olberman say that McCain got the President of Pakistan's name wrong??
Frank Luntz group feels Obama won the night.
Again injecting some reality here. The blinders some people here have is amazing. Same people who said the night before 2006 election we were going to pick up seats because all the polls were rigged.
McCain will never have a better subject than he did tonight. Not that he did poorly, but Obama didn't hurt himself, which is the point worth remembering.
Luntz gathered a group who SAID they were undecided with a 50-50 split (supposedly) D&R. At the end he had them raise their hands as to who they thought was the better. Obama won by 3 to 2 (my guess from the screen). Personally, I thought McCain came off the better but the focus group said Obama was in the present and one said McCain was too aggressive.
Not a good result, IMO.
Two women of the Luntz group sounded like they had the talking points down. Obama “just connected with the people”...
Frank Luntz and his group are nuts.
I totally agree with Krauthammer's comments. Obama did very well early in tonight's debate, but McCain certainly finished very strong with his final comments (I am SO glad McCain had the final word).
Thru my conservative/Republican eyes, McCain won tonight, but if I were a younger undecided voter, I would probably say Obama won this debate. I think it was a tie.
McCain talked about and made references to many things in the past. YES, I know these things are extremely important, as we learn from history, but "young" (ie age 30-40) people may not readily know what "KGB" is, as one example of McCain's references. There are many people in that 30-40 age group that are undecideds.
Also... we were given no insight about McCain's suspension of his campaign yesterday. I thought he'd make some definitive statement about that. Is McCain's campaign still "suspended"? I'm pretty confused as to why he did that.
Obama came across as more "caring" about the average middle class person in the first part of the debate. Sadly more non-political junkie voters are now concerned about the economy first, national security second, or even further down the chain. And I believe the next few debates are focused on the economy, which will most likely favor Obama. Are any of these future debates in the townhall format favored by McCain?
Of course I don't agree with Obama on much, but I have to admit he did better than I expected.
Frank Luntz group feels Obama won the night.
Yeah, it sounds like style (Obama) definitely won over substance (McCain). This focus group took place in Nevada, right? Wasn't Nevada a pretty safe red state in 2000 and 2004? It's purple to blue now, I think.
I'm still very worried...
I have a different theory than these pundits that argue that if Obama didn’t blow it he won. It’s obvious the American people want John McCain to win, otherwise, Obama would be up 20+ in the polls. As far as I’m concerned, McCain was the one who simply had to show up and not screw up in order to win. Obama is an empty suit. I don’t care how many DUers come on here and try to convince us otherwise. McCain’s experience, knowledge and commitment to cut wasteful spending and reform government are qualities that Obama simply can’t measure up to. These are critical times that can’t be trusted to an empty suit.
Thirty undecideds in Vegas w/Luntz. For one thing, Vegans (many Vegans) get plastic surgery themselves and are older than they appear. There are lots of strippers in Vegas and when Vegans are used to seeing strippers and show people, regular people don’t measure up visually for them. Not all Vegans are shallow but it’s part of the culture out there to self promote and get work done.