more REFRESHMENTS!.... 
Posted on 09/25/2008 9:32:10 PM PDT by dascallie
[This happens one day after the deadline to respond to the Phillip Berg lawsuit claiming Obama is ineligible to run for POTUS because of citizenship ineligibility (http://obamacrimes.com/)--Obama has not produced an authentic US birth certificate( we know the one posted is fraudulent with his name photoshopped over his indonesian half sister's name....the plot thickens. Read below...the post just published tonight, draw your own conclusions]
Obama Admits Dual Citizenship September 25, 2008 by texasdarlin Dual Citizenship Makes Obama Ineligible Under Article II By Judah Benjamin, Guest Author So, at long last, Senator Obama admits that he was born with Dual Citizenship:
From “Fight the Smears”
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
Now nice Anti-Pumas, please admit that the Senator has been selling snake oil and you have been buying it. I said he was probably born with Dual Citizenship under the 1948 Act at the outset, and I wasn’t wrong. Likewise, I wasn’t wrong about the Kenyan Constitution and his Kenyan Citizenship. Don’t take any bets that I’m wrong about Indonesia. Or the US Constitution and what it means.
Please note that I, once again, state that I, personally, believe Obama was born in Hawaii and that it doesn’t affect my opinion on his Eligibility for the Office of POTUS at all. In my understanding Article II Requires that one be a “Natural Born Citizen”, and in terms of the Law as understood by the Framers, anyone with Dual Citizenship could not be “Natural Born”. It does not matter that they no longer hold that Citizenship, they fall into the same bracket as a “Naturalized Citizen” because they have/had Divided Allegiance. That is my view and I haven’t moved an inch on it.
However, the Kenyan Citizenship Issue may not be the main point here, WAS HE, OR WAS HE NOT, an INDONESIAN CITIZEN? The Senator isn’t saying, isn’t mentioning it, is trying to avoid producing any Paperwork at all. Why? If he is/was an Indonesian Citizen, too, the Senator’s entire narrative is a fiction and he should be ashamed of himself.
He’s lied about Kenya, at least by omission, for months/years, so why should I assume he isn’t lying about Indonesia? Note Kenyan Citizenship automatically lapses if it isn’t renewed at age 21, Indonesian Citizenship doesn’t. If he was an Indonesian Citizen he would have to actively repudiate that Citizenship. Did he? Has he? Because if he hasn’t, Senator Obama is Dual National Indonesian at this moment, subject to the Laws of BOTH Countries, equally.
That is true under US Law, Indonesian Law and International Law and until LAST YEAR Indonesia DID NOT Recognize Dual Citizenship and the USA did not Recognize that one could be a Dual US/Indonesian Citizen. It does not matter that the Senator was not Responsible for the change of Citizenship because he was a child when it happened. Governor Schwarzenegger was not Responsible for the fact that he was born in Austria, or that under Austrian Law he is not a US Citizen, or under the US Law and Rules he is not a Citizen of Austria.
Senator Obama needs to produce his Paperwork, all of it, not just a Certification of Live Birth from the State of Hawaii, but all his other Paperwork too.
So, the Senator WAS a Dual National. That is now an admitted fact, admitted by his own Campaign and by Annenberg. The Senator is a Constitutional Lawyer which means that he knows, and has always known, that he is probably Ineligible to Hold the Office of POTUS, or that, at the very least, there is a strong Legal Argument that that is the case. In turn, that means that as he lied about his Kenyan and British Citizenships he is probably lying about his Indonesian Citizenship.
I do not suppose that it was ever his intention to give up his US Citizenship and it does not matter to me one bit. It doesn’t matter to Indonesia either. If Lolo Soetoro adopted him he ceased to be a US Citizen in the mid 1960s, BY INDONESIAN LAW. He also ceased to be a Kenyan Citizen, BY INDONESIAN LAW. By Kenyan and US Law he retained his Original Citizenships, until his 21st Birthday. By Indonesian Law he could have given up Indonesian Citizenship at age 18, but did he? If he didn’t he was, albeit accidentally, displaying a Legal Intention to void his US Citizenship, since he knew he could not Legally hold both Citizenships.
Please don’t tell me that the US doesn’t have to concern itself with the Laws of Indonesia because, in this case, the US does have to do so. By the way, under US Law of another time the Senator would not have been a US Citizen at all, and he knows that.
If a Naturalized Citizen cannot hold the Office of POTUS because they previously held another Citizenship it is egregious, so far as I am concerned, that a Dual Citizen/Former Dual Citizen should claim to have a Legal Right to do so. I refer the reader to my Articles on Dual Citizenship and ask you to read the quotes from Blackstone. [TD NOTE: I will be re-posting all of Judah's work shortly].
This new material at “Fight the Smears” displays arrogance, hubris and bad faith, in my opinion. It is the Senator’s reaction to Phillip Berg’s Law Suit, and, basically, it amounts to an open admission of mens rea. He is flaunting his bad faith and in so doing destroys his own case.
ping
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ping to you as well.
“”However, the Kenyan Citizenship Issue may not be the main point here, WAS HE, OR WAS HE NOT, an INDONESIAN CITIZEN?””
Well, yeah, that always was the main and obvious point,
but that didn’t prevent lunatic PUMAS from fantasizing about how his mother could have flown to Nairobi to give birth to Barry O’Java.
US law considers him a citizen of the US. Whether other countries also choose to consider him a citizen is irrelevant.
There are only two categories of citizen: natural born and naturalized. There is no "neither of the above" category.
He is a citizen, and he did not have to be naturalized. Therefore he is a natural-born US citizen.
Flipping amazing! He is not qualified to hold the office!
Please pass the popcorn.
Ping.
Another Point:
Obama admits he made a 3 week trip to Pakistan in/around 1980-81 as he started Columbia. There must be a record if he used a U.S. Passport or did he use ANOTHER PASSPORT??
Something really stinks, in fact, Obama’s entire story totally reeks like a rotting fish!
Obama HUSSEIN! Who Are You Really????????
Where there is smoke, sometimes there is fire. Nonetheless, this article did not persuade me that Obama has a citizenship problem. On the other hand, Obama has not been forthright about his birth certificate and by not quickly putting an end to that controversy, he leaves himself vulnerable to rumors and innuendo on other related things.
I’m sorry but I don’t buy the idea that someone could get this far in the process and not have something as fundamental as a citizenship reveled. Hilary and company have spectacular opposition researchers and will do anything to win. If there was any sort of meat to this they’d have been all over this. So would the McCain campaign. You can bet that thousands of man hours have been invested by those campaigns to follow up all rumors. And you can bet that various media outlets have spent thousands of hours looking for proof.
If he was born on US soil, he’s a US citizen. Or that’s what 8 million Mexican kids claim, at least....
That would be a ‘game changer’ for sure....lol
Honestly..I am glad patriots are looking into this stuff..but I would rather have this country wake the hell up to his Marxist ideas and reject them in a landslide!!
The stakes are high...no doubt about it!
more REFRESHMENTS!....
You're absolutely right. Hillary's ability to dig up and even manufacture dirt is unrivaled. I think the fact that even she hasn't touched this proves that there's nothing there. I wouldn't even be surprised if her crew could prove that Obama is a natural born citizen. But of course they'd never release that proof.
Other than the fact that some unnamed so-called “experts,” none of whom whom have ever seen let alone examined the original Birth Certificate document say it's phony, there is not one shred of evidence that it is.
The Honolulu Advertiser printed a birth announcement when it happened. Neighbors remember the mother bring the baby home.
The fact that his father was Kenyan is entirely moot. His father could have been from Rigel 4 with Klingon grandparents and their laws would have no effect here. The fact that the US does not recognize dual citizenship does not cancel his US statue.
The Indonesian issue is the same. Unless an adult Obama personally renounced his citizenship before certain US officials, the Indonesian action is meaningless.
This is all Legal Lunacy... and Malignant Mental Masturbation.
It is designed to keep us away from the real issues; his moral, ethical, criminal and political associations and history.
You Are Totally Correct. See #19
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