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Republicans, ACORN feud over suspicious voter cards
The Herald ^ | Sep. 25, 2008 | MARC CAPUTO

Posted on 09/25/2008 7:27:38 PM PDT by Red Steel

TALLAHASSEE -- Two suspicious Seminole County voter registration cards became a flash point Wednesday in the Republican effort to suggest the community group ACORN is committing fraud in its historic Florida get-out-the vote efforts.

An ACORN spokesman said the group spotted what appeared to be forged registration cards weeks ago and fired a worker over them. Seminole's election chief, Mike Ertel, said he was still "tremendously concerned," but stopped well short of calling the incident "fraud." The Republican National Committee, though, levelled the accusation and blasted the housing and wage advocacy group in a nationwide conference call with reporters, saying this wasn't an isolated incident.

In Orange County, ACORN staffers submitted multiple, duplicate registrations on behalf of six separate voters this summer. One individual had 21 duplicate applications. Election Supervisor Bill Cowles and his staff protested, noting in a June memo that ACORN had been submitting sloppy forms as well.

ACORN, or the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, changed procedures, disciplined some staffers and improved relations with Orange. ACORN has signed up 135,000 new Florida voters since January in just three counties: Orange, Broward and Miami-Dade.

That's a fifth of all new voters. More than 58 percent are Democrats, who now outnumber Republicans by almost 500,000 voters -- providing Barack Obama a potentially crucial edge in the neck-and-neck race in Florida.

'QUASI CRIMINAL?'

ACORN's voter-registration drives have come under fire from Republicans for being sloppy and allegedly fraudulent in North Carolina, Michigan, Missouri, New Mexico and Colorado, said Republican National Committee chief legal counsel Scott Cairncross.

Cairncross noted that ACORN in Washington state had to file an agreement with prosecutors to improve procedures after seven workers were charged with criminal voter-registration fraud.

''This organization is not new to this game. They are a quasi-criminal Democrat-affiliated organization that harms the elections process,'' Cairncross said.

ACORN's Florida coordinator, Brian Kettenring, said the organization is non-partisan. He dismissed the attacks saying the Republicans are trying to ``reduce the size of the electorate.''

''What's criminal is the way the McCain campaign is drumming up lies and misrepresentation to try to suppress minority voter participation,'' Kettenring said. ``It's clear they are willing to use mistruths and exaggerations to try to create an atmosphere of chaos.''

Plus, he said, voter-registration problems don't equal vote fraud, such as someone showing up to the polls with a false I.D.

However, Secretary of State Kurt Browning, pointed out that unregistered voters could be signed up without their knowledge and then have absentee ballots fraudulently cast on their behalf in rare cases. Browning said he had a good working relationship with ACORN when he was Pasco County's elections chief until 2006.

ACORN is a massive nationwide association that made its presence felt in the 2004 elections when it signed up 212,000 people to vote in Florida, where it now has 15,000 members.

Republicans said ACORN wasn't just working on the successful ballot initiative boosting the minimum wage in Florida -- it wanted to help Democrat John Kerry. Kerry lost by about 381,000 votes. Since that election, ACORN says it has signed up 382,000 voters in Florida.

This year, ACORN's political action committee endorsed Obama, a former community organizer who had done work for ACORN.

''These are friends and allies of Barack Obama,'' said Republican spokesman Danny Diaz, who accused ACORN of ``undermining our election system.''

The Obama campaign says it works separately from ACORN. It reports signing up about 100,000 new voters of its own since January.

'MIAMI-DADE COULD BE HUGE'

The registration drives have paid off in Miami-Dade for Democrats, where more than 63,000 Democrats have been registered compared to 12,138 Republicans and about 24,000 independents. That has increased the percentage of Democrats by nearly two full points, ---- to 44 percent ---- on the Miami-Dade voter rolls.

''Miami-Dade could be huge for us,'' said Obama's campaign manager, Steve Schale. ``This is a numbers game, and having tens of thousands of more votes makes us even more competitive in Florida.''

But the Republican Party of Florida has heard it all before: The big registration gains, the buzz, the anti-Bush talk. Yet the Republican presidential candidate, except in 1996, has won every time in the past three decades.

Nationwide, ACORN has signed up 1.15 million new voters. And, as a result, mistakes can pop up, Kettenring said.

Kettenring said the group pays card-gatherers by the hour and requires them to get working phone numbers to spot-check registrations. Bad card-gatherers and those who don't supply enough phone numbers for checking are fired, said Kettenring, who wouldn't divulge names. He said the signers of cards are more often to blame for errors than the card gatherers.

THE SEMINOLE CASES

The card gatherer in one of the Seminole County cases was fired in August, Kettenring said, because the worker submitted too many cards without phone numbers.

In the other case, he said, ACORN warned the card gatherer to be more careful. Kettenring said ACORN contacted the woman listed on the card, Sacha Thomas, who said she suspected her friend had signed her up. She wouldn't comment to The Miami Herald. The man listed on the other card, James Stanley, couldn't be reached by The Herald.

Kettenring said ACORN can't destroy cards, even suspicious ones -- which it flags with a sheet labeling it ''problematic.'' He said that happened in this case when the forms were submitted to Orange County, where the registrations were collected.

The paper-work was forwarded to Seminole County but the problematic-card note didn't make it. Orange County officials say they can't find the problematic card sheets.

Orange's election supervisor, Cowles, who had complained in the past of ACORN's methods, said he now has a ''good working'' relationship with ACORN, as did Miami-Dade's Lester Sola and Broward's Brenda Snipes. So far, no one has filed a complaint against ACORN with the state's election-fraud division.

Seminole's election supervisor, Mike Ertel, had little bad to say about ACORN, either, though he was concerned about the two registrations.

''The story here is that the system worked,'' said Ertel, who had nothing bad to say about ACORN. ``We check 100 percent of these, and this rarely happens. I'm not sure this is a widespread issue. And we saw two this weekend that gave us pause. It gave me great concern. I don't want anybody disenfranchised.''


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1 posted on 09/25/2008 7:27:39 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

CRL Testimony on ACORN’s Voter Fraud

Last update: 10:31 a.m. EDT Sept. 25, 2008
WASHINGTON, Sept 25, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ — James Terry, Chief Public Advocate for the Consumers Rights League, today testified at a joint House Administration and House Judiciary Committee oversight hearing on “Federal, State and Local Efforts to Prepare for the General 2008 Election,” where he highlighted “corruption at every level of ACORN including embezzlement, cover-ups, misuse of taxpayer funds and voter fraud.” An excerpt of his testimony follows:
James Terry, Chief Public Advocate, Consumers Rights League:
“ACORN routinely says it will clean up its act. Yet, given its decade-long history of voter fraud, embezzlement, and misuses of taxpayer funds, ACORN’s pattern of fraud can no longer be dismissed as a series of ‘unfortunate events.’
“The problem of voter registration fraud raises serious questions for this committee, and the Consumers Rights League appreciates that the right questions are being asked.
“Here are the most important questions right now: We know about the thousands of potentially fraudulent voter registration cards turned in by ACORN and caught by officials. But given the size of ACORN’s efforts and the fact that the abuses appear to be systemic, we believe it is fair to question how many more fraudulent registrations have not been discovered, Furthermore, as this mega organization with a decades long history of violating the law is turned to get out the vote efforts, we believe it is fair to question how many fraudulent registrations may lead to fraudulent votes or what other activities they are willing to undertake to influence the election.
“These are serious questions, especially in light of recent election results which show that a just few votes can change the outcome of an election, the course of our country and the course of history.
“While we do not presume to tell this committee how to address this problem, we respectfully submit that our nation’s election system is facing a concerted campaign that raises serious issues that merit the committee’s oversight and attention.”

Complete transcript of hearing testimony:
http://www.consumersrightsleague.org/uploadedfiles/JamesTerryACORN9-24.pdf

About The Consumers Rights League:
The Consumers Rights League is a non-profit, non-partisan educational organization dedicated to protecting consumer choice and access to the marketplace. Through investigative analysis, CRL produces quality research that thoroughly documents the real-world choices and challenges consumers face and reports on the benefits enjoyed by an overwhelming majority of consumers. Learn more about CRL’s mission at www.consumersrightsleague.org .
SOURCE Consumers Rights League

http://www.consumersrightsleague.org


2 posted on 09/25/2008 7:32:00 PM PDT by davidtalker (David Gold - goldtalk.com)
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To: Red Steel

The FBI should be investigating ACORN right now and dragging them off in handcuffs. They are trying to steal an election. They are criminals.


3 posted on 09/25/2008 7:35:32 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Barack Hussein Osama is a liar.)
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To: Red Steel

The MO for ACORN is now to blame individual registrars, not the whole group. They perfected this in WA state when they put Christine over the top by 133 votes after the third recount.

The prosecutor denied calls for an investigation saying that their was no evidence of a conspiracy to bring RICO charges. Well, you don’t need RICO to charge voter fraud. So, they prosecuted and convicted a couple of low level ACORN people, and the federal gov’t fired the federal prosecutor.


4 posted on 09/25/2008 7:36:16 PM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

If enough people started calling and reporting ACORN, would the FBI get involved then? Geez...this is absolutely ridiculous that they are allowed to operate in any state at all.


5 posted on 09/25/2008 7:38:11 PM PDT by PleaseNoMore (Country First!)
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To: Red Steel

Good!!! We need to be vigilant about this before the election than after it because we all know they’re going to try to STEAL this election.


6 posted on 09/25/2008 7:44:38 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Red Steel

Why haven’t RICO charges been filed against this mob?


7 posted on 09/25/2008 7:44:40 PM PDT by gitmo (Some days you're the dog. Some days you're the hydrant.)
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To: gitmo
"Why haven’t RICO charges been filed against this mob?"
Probably because there are still a lot of left over Clinton era Justice Department hacks doling out the justice.
8 posted on 09/25/2008 7:54:12 PM PDT by Eric (McCain/Palin 2008....Palin/Jindal 2012)
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To: Red Steel
This video was taken in the 2004 Presidential election in Denver, (the location of the DNC Nomination Convention). At 2 minutes and 35 seconds into this video, you can see the ACORN sign that says, “Vote for Change”… Obama’s campaign slogan.




9 posted on 09/25/2008 7:55:13 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: davidtalker

Pass the word.


10 posted on 09/25/2008 7:57:55 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Red Steel

if they would cut the US and state grants to ACORN, ACORN would cease to exist.


11 posted on 09/25/2008 8:03:10 PM PDT by elpadre (nation)
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To: Red Steel

Voter registration should only take place at the Election Supervisor’s office. Any exceptions should be monitored by the Election Supervisor and not be left up to non-officials.


12 posted on 09/25/2008 8:08:06 PM PDT by skr (I serve a risen Savior!)
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To: Red Steel

I heard on Fox tonight that part of the bailout package is ANOTHER $20million to ACORN for “housing.” Are those Senate Republicans who were going along with this farce utter idiots??? Talk about buying the rope that hangs you...


13 posted on 09/25/2008 8:39:48 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib

Not $20 million it’s 20% of 700 billion package.

But as I can gather of what is happening in Washington is in part that there is ‘No Deal’ on the bailout bill tonight. And probably the reason Barney Franks cried about it and stormed out of the meeting.


14 posted on 09/25/2008 8:53:14 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: davidtalker
ACORN's Florida coordinator, Brian Kettenring, said the organization is non-partisan.

Yeah, and I'm the Tooth Fairy!

How can he say that with a straight face?

15 posted on 09/25/2008 9:03:38 PM PDT by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume, No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: Red Steel

What’s the constitutionality of requiring a thumb or finger print with voter registration?


16 posted on 09/25/2008 9:15:12 PM PDT by CriticalJ
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To: Red Steel
I fully believe that McCain is winning in a landslide, but these evil crooks intend to steal it away.....and this is a publically funded group.....

living in Communist Russia....

17 posted on 09/25/2008 10:51:55 PM PDT by cherry
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To: DocRock

That SOB ought to serve 35 life sentences.


18 posted on 09/25/2008 11:04:32 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("It would be disgrace and humiliation if Obama does not win." -Woody Allen)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2090855/posts


19 posted on 09/25/2008 11:29:08 PM PDT by fantom
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To: backhoe; Cindy

check this out


20 posted on 09/19/2009 12:18:31 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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