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This credit crisis is like the plague and nobody is safe yet
Telegraph ^ | 09/22/08 | Roger Bootle

Posted on 09/24/2008 10:06:00 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

This credit crisis is like the plague and nobody is safe yet

By Roger Bootle

Last Updated: 7:17PM BST 22 Sep 2008

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A year since the credit crunch burst upon an unsuspecting world, the big questions remain unanswered. Where are we now? Is it nearly over? And has understanding finally caught up with reality?

The central banks' measures to return the money markets to normality by injecting massive amounts of liquidity have been at least partially successful. The spread of three-month interbank interest rates over the official policy rate - a useful indication of the willingness of banks to lend to each other - has narrowed from a peak of 1.2 percentage points to 0.8 percentage points now.

Before the credit crunch struck, however, this spread was regularly in the region of 0.2 percentage points. So although the worst may now be behind us, things are far from normal.

Moreover, even if the liquidity crisis may be past its worst, the housing crisis has only just begun. At the start of the credit crunch, house prices in the US had already fallen by 4pc. But over the past year they have fallen more rapidly, taking the total drop from the peak seen in 2006 to 16pc. My guess is that they still have 15pc to 20pc to fall.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bailout; creditcrisis; financialcrisis; liquidity
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1 posted on 09/24/2008 10:06:01 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Uncle Ike; RSmithOpt; jiggyboy; 2banana; Travis McGee; OwenKellogg; 31R1O; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 09/24/2008 10:06:30 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
My guess is that they still have 15pc to 20pc to fall.

That would be healthy, allowing people to better afford housing without propped-up loans.

3 posted on 09/24/2008 10:08:58 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring
Potential buyers do not have money because of their stock holdings, dividends, and bank deposits were blown off by the crisis. Besides, they have more tax burden.
4 posted on 09/24/2008 10:15:24 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Gondring

How are more people going to afford housing when unemployment is up?


5 posted on 09/24/2008 10:21:16 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

Wall street brokers will just have to get smaller houses.


6 posted on 09/24/2008 10:24:38 PM PDT by Tempest (No more bailouts. No More Fear Mongers.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Let’s consider the question of whether the DNC/media have conspired to cause this problem and time it to impact at the onset of the election.

Obviously, the AP, the NYT and other media have been pushing the notion of recession for most all of the GWB years. Now, with the election of his predecessor in the offing, have they laid out a grand plan for us?


7 posted on 09/24/2008 10:32:45 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Do you really think that the buyers targeted by these ill-conceived programs were loaded up with stock holdings?


8 posted on 09/24/2008 10:44:44 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Tempest
Wall street brokers will just have to get smaller houses.

Actually live within their means? Heavens, no! We need to bail them out!

</sarc>

9 posted on 09/24/2008 10:45:43 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Rembrandt
It is Greenspan who laid out the grand plan along with Wall St. boys many of whom supports Dems anyway.

Actually I am surprised that the crisis has been held off this far. Back in 2001, I thought that there could be some chance that economy would tank around 2004, giving Dems the opportunity to retake White House.

10 posted on 09/24/2008 10:46:05 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: what's up
How are more people going to afford housing when unemployment is up?

Perhaps Americans will do the jobs that Americans won't do.

11 posted on 09/24/2008 10:46:34 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring
We are not talking about illegal aliens here. These days middle class folks have investment into financial markets directly or indirectly.
12 posted on 09/24/2008 10:49:10 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Gondring

Whatever jobs you are referring to, there will be far fewer of them.


13 posted on 09/24/2008 10:50:45 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Tempest
Wall street brokers will just have to get smaller houses.

True. And more average joes will end up in shacks. Nice.

14 posted on 09/24/2008 10:51:52 PM PDT by what's up
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To: TigerLikesRooster

TANSTAAFL

Continue on the same wrong path, or fix what’s wrong and feel the pain now to save the republic.

I would consider the latter to be far more honorable.


15 posted on 09/24/2008 10:55:22 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: what's up
True. And more average joes will end up in shacks. Nice.

Yes, hammering the dollar and loading them with a $700B hit will not be good for the average joes.

Far better to keep the republic strong and then throw your socialist twist in afterwards.

16 posted on 09/24/2008 11:00:34 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: what's up

Why is it such a difficult concept these days, to realize that it’s unsustainable to produce less than one consumes, and just make up the difference via credit or devaluation?


17 posted on 09/24/2008 11:03:54 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring
Yes, hammering the dollar and loading them with a $700B hit will not be good for the average joes.

On the contrary. There's nothing else to stimulate the economy at the present time as the average joe sees his house value go down, down, down.

700B jolt will help old joe but better than a deep recession or possible depression even though many seem strangely titillated by the idea of the suffering which will ensue from a sharp downturn.

18 posted on 09/24/2008 11:04:06 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

What about those who don’t have houses...I suppose you suggest they live on the street while you artificially prop up the housing market by taking money from their pockets, eh?


19 posted on 09/24/2008 11:05:43 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

NO BAIL OUT!


20 posted on 09/24/2008 11:06:12 PM PDT by PureSolace (God save us all)
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