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Congress balks at massive US financial bailout plan
AFP on Yahoo ^ | 9/23/08 | Veronica Smith

Posted on 09/23/2008 4:53:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: too_cool_for_skool

You are advocating socialism and you are a troll.


41 posted on 09/23/2008 6:14:10 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: learner

Stop with all this sky-is-falling junk. That’s exactly what Bush & Paulson want you to think to shove this bailout plan down everyone’s throats.

Nobody is questioning that some intervention is necessary but the current terms are ridiculous and will amount to HUGE losses by the taxpayer. Bernanke spoke today about buying debt at “hold-to-maturity” prices aka GREATER THAN MARKET PRICES. That’s like buying a used car with no inspection on EBay at the original MSRP. This is pure highway robbery.

If the government is going to bailout, at minimum it deserves an equity stake in every company that receives taxpayer money. The government should receive the power to fire incompetent & greedy executives immediately and with no golden parachutes.

Yet Bush, Paulson, and Bernanke are stalling on these points. They claim the financial system is facing imminent collapse yet they won’t concede on executive golden parachutes? They’re going to risk the entire US economy so some executive who made this mess can get paid $10 million to get fired?

I’m calling BS on that one.


42 posted on 09/23/2008 6:27:36 PM PDT by too_cool_for_skool
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To: jveritas
If you think I'm advocating socialism you have not read the details of the bailout plan.
43 posted on 09/23/2008 6:29:04 PM PDT by too_cool_for_skool
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To: RKV

As of August (per your reference) tha’ts so. But as major financial institutions fail, can it remain so? I’m no economist so I obviously am groping in an effort to educate myself about the situation so bear with me. I thought that if loans default, it decreases bank assets and consequently M2 (infinitesimally in most cases but in this case....) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and Lehman Bros going belly up is way outside the norm.


44 posted on 09/23/2008 6:47:56 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: pepsi_junkie

I am an economist. You’re not getting the con.


45 posted on 09/23/2008 6:55:42 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: too_cool_for_skool

You may be familiar with FUD. Fear, uncertainty and doubt. It was used by a large American company to push its products. Same deal here. Not sure why Jorge Arbusto is behind this, He has an MBA and should know the basics. What I fear is that he’s loyal to Paulson. He shouldn’t be. Paulson is doing what’s good for Wall Street, not what’s best for Main Street. The two have different values and concerns. Roll the tape back a bit to Friedman’s seminal work on why the Depression got worse unlike other business cycles. We’ve got to keep free trade (Smoot-Hawley). cut taxes (unlike the New Deal Social Security job killing tax) and reduce government regulation (NRA, TVA, etc.). Cutting corporate income taxes would likely raise revenue AND encourage business to hire. There is a way out of this without dumping debt on the taxpayers.


46 posted on 09/23/2008 7:03:05 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: EGPWS

There is a thread here on FR which quotes Newt. And it is his phrase.

So you must ask Newt about drug induced.


47 posted on 09/23/2008 7:23:49 PM PDT by stockpirate (Bitter white trash clinging to God and guns. Sarah Barracuda - the trilla from Willsila)
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To: counterpunch

That is one of my greatest concerns as well — timing!


48 posted on 09/23/2008 7:46:42 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: EGPWS
It was created and given to them and in some cases forced upon them by Washington politico.

The government required firms to underwrite NINJA loans!?

49 posted on 09/23/2008 10:13:00 PM PDT by supercat
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