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To: markomalley; livius
You both are right; however, that is not the way it would be spun, though. It would not be spun that we haven’t supported our friends: it would be spun that Bush’s aggressive policies in the M.E. made poor-little Vlad feel threatened. ... That’s what I meant by “Bush’s fault”

I understand your point, but you seem to be forgetting that that's already the "spin" that's being put out. The brutal reality that everyone needs to face, from President Bush all the way down to those of us on these boards and at the grass-roots level, is that "spin" (and we really should get back to using its proper name - propaganda) is always going to be a constant.

In fact, it's going to be a "negative" constant because its real purpose has nothing to do with objectively analyzing and critiquing issues and policies in order to solve problems or to honestly assess the success or failure of policies. The primary purpose of "spin" is as a PR and propaganda weapon for vying factions to bludgeon each other with in order to either maintain their own or acquire their enemies' power.

Thus, once you honestly face the fact that playing the spin game is a waste of time and ultimately self-defeating, the logical thing to do from a genuine leadership perspective is to say to hell with the spin and just do the right thing. The best counter to the constant spin storm is simply success "on the ground", as they say, accompanied by a forceful, forthright, clear and unambiguous explanation to the American people of what was done, why it was done, and asking them directly for their support.

President Bush's regrettable inability and/or refusal to stand up and take the fight directly to the media and his political enemies by going over their heads directly to the American people has been disastrous, and has in large measure allowed the Left to come within a hair of putting us in the nightmare grasp of an Obama presidency.

John McCain, on the other hand, has shown that he does have a spark of that fighting spirit to stand up to these forces. His problem, however, is that's he's still absolutely nuts, flat-out wrong on certain issues which have the potential to destroy this country, and can't seem to shake his compulsion to "reach across the aisle". Thus we have the surreal situation where the elites and the media are in the tank for Obama, they really want him to win, but, they'd also settle for a "McCain/bland Establishment VP of your choice" one-term administration which would still enact most of their agenda, to set-up a return for Hillary.

Sarah Palin is a genuine outsider, however, and has blown that scenario away. And that is why she must not be allowed to be in a position for a shot at the White House in the future. She has that same spark and fighting spirit as McCain, without his baggage, and represents an existential threat to the long-term goals and agenda of the elites. And she doesn't speak "spin" - she speaks directly to and connects with the American people, and that is why the elites are terrified of her and hate her viscerally.

33 posted on 09/22/2008 6:29:19 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: tarheelswamprat
the logical thing to do from a genuine leadership perspective is to say to hell with the spin and just do the right thing.

Agreed. I agree on McCain and Palin, too. McCain, whatever his many faults are, does always stand up and fight back. I think he's also toughening up on many issues he was weak on at the start of the campaign, which is promising. But I do think, in general, that one of McCain's best - and simultaneously worst, in the past - points is that he really doesn't care what anybody thinks or says once he has decided on something, and he does stand up and defend his positions.

34 posted on 09/22/2008 7:04:01 AM PDT by livius
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