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Dems say they won’t get fooled again
The Politico ^

Posted on 09/21/2008 4:10:35 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Dems say they won’t get fooled again By: Glenn Thrush September 21, 2008 06:51 PM EST

Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) says he’s seen this movie before: The Bush administration, citing an unprecedented national threat, puts the hammer on Congress to ram through gargantuan legislation with a minimum of review — and the murkiest of repercussions.

“We will do something this week — but if we learned anything from right after 9/11, it’s that the biggest mistake is to pass anything they ask for just because it’s an emergency,” Leahy says.

The Senate Judiciary Committee chairman knows of what he speaks. He sponsored the original Patriot Act, only to feel betrayed later when the Bush administration used it to justify domestic wiretapping.

Historically, breathtaking national crises have spurred Congress to act swiftly, sweepingly and in bipartisan lockstep, with ornery legislators casting aside years of bickering to produce consensus at breakneck speed.

But the current generation of Democratic congressional leaders feels burned — and not a little humiliated — by the Bush administration’s use of the 2001 attacks to justify both the speedy enactment of the controversial and complex USA Patriot Act and congressional authorization of the resolution authorizing the use of force in Iraq.

“They can’t get away with what they did in 2001,” Leahy said. “This will be ‘trust but verify.’ The biggest mistake they can make is holding a press conference while we’re negotiating to say there’s going to be a worldwide depression if Congress doesn’t do exactly what we want them to.”

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: 110th; congress; economicpolicy; financialcrisis; govwatch; leahy
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1 posted on 09/21/2008 4:10:35 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

The Democrats first step to giving our country away to terrorists. Ironic thing though, they’ll be the first to fall.


2 posted on 09/21/2008 4:12:05 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: Sub-Driver

You mean the Dems will make political points?? Who would have thought? /s


3 posted on 09/21/2008 4:12:14 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (`Pontius Pilate voted "Present")
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To: Sub-Driver

The same old jackass have begun their braying again!


4 posted on 09/21/2008 4:12:22 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Tune in on the evening of Nov. 4th and watch the Obamanoid "voters" finish off America for good!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Old Leaky Leahy (America’s own Socialist) at it again, eh?


5 posted on 09/21/2008 4:13:22 PM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Meanwhile Dem CEO's are putting pressure on banking chairman Frank and Dodd to get the thing passed.

This should be interesting.

6 posted on 09/21/2008 4:14:30 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Sub-Driver

Yes, we’ve seen this before. A program created by Democrats, lauded by Democrats, protected by Democrats, staffed by Democrats, and run into the ground by Democrats blows up and now the US taxpayer has to pick up the tab.

Fannie and Freddie were the root cause of this problem, Patty.


7 posted on 09/21/2008 4:16:39 PM PDT by Harry Wurzbach
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To: Sub-Driver
But the current generation of Democratic congressional leaders feels burned
Yeah, since they've only been there since the early 70's they aren't all that experienced just yet.
8 posted on 09/21/2008 4:17:05 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: Sub-Driver

HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHA!!!!!

They will pass it, they can’t say no to socialism and the continued killing of America!!!


9 posted on 09/21/2008 4:17:25 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: Sub-Driver

Will they help save the nation or pander for votes?

...........never mind.......


10 posted on 09/21/2008 4:17:55 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: xcamel

For once I think the old goat is on the right side of an issue - have you read the proposed bill (we’ve been calling it the “No Banker Left Behind Act”)?

It’s frightening in its vagueness and unlimitedness.

I think that this is one bill that needs not to be rushed through - the repercussions are too great.

LQ


11 posted on 09/21/2008 4:18:00 PM PDT by LizardQueen (The world is not out to get you, except in the sense that the world is out to get everyone.)
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To: LizardQueen

I didn’t say it was good or bad - I said Leahy is about the last person in government to be complaining about anything...


12 posted on 09/21/2008 4:20:27 PM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: LizardQueen

I’ve written to my three reps and asked them to not vote for this bill. For whatever good that will do. I fear this is a fait accompli.


13 posted on 09/21/2008 4:22:03 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Sub-Driver

Good! Block it! Kill it! Drive a stake through its socialist heart so it never rises again! Then get the hell out of the way, you worthless old bag of wind.


14 posted on 09/21/2008 4:22:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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Does anyone here really think we should be spending a trillion dollars with no oversite and golden parachutes for the idiots on Wall Street that got us into this mess? Are we going to let some of these crooks buy stuff back for a fraction like they did in the savings and loan debacle?

If Republicans are smart, they'll agree with the dems and give me a boost of enthusiasm this election.

15 posted on 09/21/2008 4:23:05 PM PDT by Texas_shutterbug
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To: Sub-Driver

Stand back and let the dems throw spitballs at each other.


16 posted on 09/21/2008 4:23:56 PM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............)
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To: Sub-Driver
The Democrats might actually be on our side this time.

By "our side", I mean those of us who have concluded that, even at the risk of financial collapse, Paulson's "Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP)" must be opposed, because it puts too much power and money, with no oversight but with complete legal immunity, in the hands of the very bankers who played such a substantial role in creating this crisis, for their clear benefit, at enormous expense to this nation.

I elaborated my opposition to TARP more in an earlier post, The Mother Of All Frauds(Digesting the Bailout Bill) - Post #23

If the 'Rats do manage to sink TARP, and if there is a major financial panic in the next month, then they would have a hard time (though I'm sure the media will come to their rescue) avoiding the blame for that panic.

I'm still long popcorn futures.

17 posted on 09/21/2008 4:25:31 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: savedbygrace
I’ve written to my three reps and asked them to not vote for this bill. For whatever good that will do. I fear this is a fait accompli.

I know how you feel. All they care about is getting reelected so they can rape, pillage and plunder us all repeatedly.

18 posted on 09/21/2008 4:26:59 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: Sub-Driver
I would recomend that Leahy, Biden, Obama, et al. start by reading Vision of the Anointed by Thomas Sowell.

This book exposes the precise modus operandi that's being used here, as well as when most social-engineering sort of legislation is proposed.

But I think their heads would explode if they were exposed to its pages.

19 posted on 09/21/2008 4:29:48 PM PDT by George Smiley (Palin is the real deal.)
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To: Texas_shutterbug
This is the Sovietization of the financial markets. It dwarfs anything Hillarycare ever dreamed of!

None of these pygmies in either party cares about freedom. No one will stop anything. They won't even read it.

20 posted on 09/21/2008 4:31:15 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments
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