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Top Six Chinese Car Clones
http://monsterauto.ca/chinese-cars.php ^

Posted on 09/18/2008 8:20:20 PM PDT by KingJaja

he North American Auto Industry is facing the biggest downturn in its history, with $Billions in losses every quarter. Plant closures and job cuts by the thousands are now a monthly occurrence. Automotive analysts have questioned GM and Ford's viability going forward. Gas prices are widely believed to the primary cause however now there is another threat lurking around the corner. This one could be bigger and more ominous than any other that American automakers have faced previously.

China has begun pumping out more cars and trucks than ever before at ridiculously low prices. While most of their current vehicles built to date have been sold in China and Russia, they have been systematically progressing toward their stated goal of domination of both the North American and European Auto Industry.

Cheap Chinese labor along with much lower manufacturing costs and environmental standards along with aggressive pricing are quickly making Chinese models a fixture in the automotive marketplace worldwide. Auto Industry experts have suggested that it is only a matter of time before westerners, stung by soaring gas prices, choose to buy these Chinese-built vehicles at a fraction of the cost of their domestic car counterparts.

If this seems something far-fetched, or you think we still have time, this video shows how Chinese manufacturers are invading Russia, using it as a test market to launch a wholesale attack on the North American and European Auto Marketplace.

(Excerpt) Read more at monsterauto.ca ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; globalism; trade; transporation

1 posted on 09/18/2008 8:20:21 PM PDT by KingJaja
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To: KingJaja
Fight as I might , I keep finding stuff all around me made in Red China . I can not think of a single item that is not crap . A Chinese car ? How about a Chinese parachute . Even when I was a little kid I could pull my little fingers right out of those Chinese handcuffs . Crap I tell you .
2 posted on 09/18/2008 8:25:20 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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To: KingJaja
Gotta love that new Chinese car smell...


3 posted on 09/18/2008 8:26:25 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: KingJaja

Do the cars come with free milk and pet food?


4 posted on 09/18/2008 8:29:28 PM PDT by GBA
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To: KingJaja

And we all know how the Chinese are dedicated to product quality and safety.


5 posted on 09/18/2008 8:29:34 PM PDT by ottbmare
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To: kbennkc

Let me know what item you are looking for and I will find you the quality you are looking for as well as handle QC inspection, load and count and logistics if you need those services also.

Not sure what quality difficulties you ran into but it likely is the result of an American buyer not doing their job when purchasing.


6 posted on 09/18/2008 8:35:13 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: kbennkc

Take your mind to 1978. Did the average American then ever think that 30 years later that:

1. China would hold 1.8 Trillion US dollars in external reserves.
2. The Chinese would own the PC division of IBM.
3. China would produce more steel, build more ships, consume more cement and produce more textiles than the US.
4. Most household products would be Chinese made.

In the next 30 years:

1. Your kids and grandkids will be driving in Chinese made cars.
2. Chinese made commercial jetliners will fill the skies, competing with Boeing and Airbus.
3. China will contribute significantly to Scientific Research.

I know the Chinese from graduate school (I did a graduate degree in Telecommunications Engineering). They (and the Indians) dominate. Your kids (if they study Math, Science or Engineering will be taught by Chinese or Indian kids).

Indians are one-sided: They are mainly into Scientific Research and IT, but China is the full package (Hell, they even export food to the States).

Forget Al-Qaeda, China is the real deal.


7 posted on 09/18/2008 8:53:55 PM PDT by KingJaja
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To: kbennkc

Forgot to add.

If they economy goes belly up, expect to start seeing some VERY CHEAP Chinese cars on the highways.


8 posted on 09/18/2008 8:56:52 PM PDT by KingJaja
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To: KingJaja
Take your mind to 1978. Did the average American then ever think that 30 years later that: 1. China would hold 1.8 Trillion US dollars in external reserves. 2. The Chinese would own the PC division of IBM. 3. China would produce more steel, build more ships, consume more cement and produce more textiles than the US. 4. Most household products would be Chinese made.

Yes , but I was a member of the John Birch Society , you know those loons who used to say this stuff was coming .

9 posted on 09/18/2008 9:00:17 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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To: BJungNan
Let me know what item you are looking for and I will find you the quality you are looking for as well as handle QC inspection
No offense but what makes you an expert on the quality control of virtually every product made in China? Or anywhere else for that matter.
Not sure what quality difficulties you ran into but it likely is the result of an American buyer not doing their job when purchasing.
Right, it couldn't possibly be the manufacturer doing their job...it has to be "the American buyer".

The buyer sees a container of hydraulic jacks for example. The jacks are painted glossy red, looks really good. The problem is the precison of the mechanics, the seals etc. that "the American buyer" can't see.
Sloppy threads on bolts, nuts, pipe and fittings, tool steel too hard or not hard enough

Things "the American buyer" can't see.

10 posted on 09/18/2008 9:19:10 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: lewislynn
No offense but what makes you an expert on the quality control of virtually every product made in China? Or anywhere else for that matter.

No offense taken and good question. Of course it is not all products. If we can not help we won't take the work.

Right, it couldn't possibly be the manufacturer doing their job...it has to be "the American buyer".

In the U.S. you can count on a company to provide good quality or make it up to you. Stick with that philosophy in China and you will get stuck. In any case, it is ultimately the responsibilty of the buyer to assure the quality of the goods being sent into the U.S. It is to U.S. standards you must purchase, not the standards in country where you are buying.

The buyer sees a container of hydraulic jacks for example. The jacks are painted glossy red, looks really good. The problem is the precison of the mechanics, the seals etc. that "the American buyer" can't see. Sloppy threads on bolts, nuts, pipe and fittings, tool steel too hard or not hard enough. Things "the American buyer" can't see.

You can see them. First is to do your job finding and developing your source. You don't blow into town to do that. Second, you keep your people on the factory floor as the item is being produced.

By the way, if you are looking for quality bottle jacks, let me know. That's an easy one.

11 posted on 09/19/2008 12:02:28 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: lewislynn

That's a wall of pliers.


And a wall of hammers, no two alike in either picture.


...and somewhere in this picture are the bottle jacks.

12 posted on 09/19/2008 12:06:12 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: KingJaja; JACKRUSSELL
I for one will not buy/use ANYTHING that is Chineezz!!!

No matter what the price !

All Deadly Trash !!!

No Fud,,,No Toolzz,,,No Nuthin’ !!! > . <

Total Boycott...

13 posted on 09/19/2008 12:22:34 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: jahp; LilAngel; metmom; EggsAckley; Battle Axe; SweetCaroline; Grizzled Bear; goldfinch; B4Ranch; ..
MADE IN CHINA POTTERY STAMP

A ping list dedicated to exposing the quality, safety and security issues of anything “Made in China”.


Please FReepmail me if you would like to be on or off of the list.

(This can be a high volume ping list.)

14 posted on 09/19/2008 3:05:25 AM PDT by JACKRUSSELL
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To: lewislynn
As someone with 30 years in Quality control (and having analyzed hundreds of Chinese products in the past three years) I can say the bulk of it is crap. I can also tell you some of it is as good or better than product made in the USA.

Keep in mind these were consumer products but judging by the fabrication methods and machining some were top notch.

China is the next Japan, copying other designs and producing them with exceptional quality.

Just my two cents.

15 posted on 09/19/2008 3:21:57 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: lewislynn
The buyer sees a container of hydraulic jacks for example. The jacks are painted glossy red, looks really good. The problem is the precison of the mechanics, the seals etc. that "the American buyer" can't see.

Your observation is right. In the end, every society has to judge for themselves whether they want to head in the direction of producing high quality products. Inspection, regulation, etc. merely weeds out the worse. If the overall batch is rotten, there's not much that inspection can really do.

But I believe, what is happening is China is not unique. The story of a nation having low quality products (and low value) and then moving to higher quality (and value) has been told with Japan, Korea and Taiwan. And now with China (I'm confident to say). There is a transition taking place right now.

It has to do with economics and maintaing market share. As wages increase (and they are going up in China), to stay in the market, both technology and quality of a product must go up. It's elementary. I believe China is up to the task.

China is closing down factories by the thousands that are labor intensive. Many of them will move to other developing nations. But because all the developing nations combined don't have China's infrastructure, some of the labor intensive manufacturing will move back to the developed nations including the US.

And don't be surprised that more manufacturing will move to China, except, this time, higher value added goods, i.e., autos and airplanes. I believe a Chinese version of a Lexus about two decades away.

16 posted on 09/19/2008 5:39:05 PM PDT by ponder life
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