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Texas High School Student Told Rosary Is 'Gang Symbol'
FOX News.com ^ | September 16, 2008

Posted on 09/16/2008 7:36:27 AM PDT by Kaslin

A Texas teen claims she is forbidden from wearing a rosary around her neck in school because the prayer beads are a gang symbol, MyFOXDFW.com reported.

Tabitha Ruiz was stopped by security guards at Seagoville High School in Dallas last week and told to take off the silver and ruby beaded rosary, a gift from her mother. On Monday, the same thing happened when she again came to the school wearing the beads.

"I went to school, walked through the metal detectors and they told me to take it off," the teen told MyFOXDFW.com. "I asked them why and they said because it's gang-related."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: catholic; education; gangs; moralabsolutes; publiceducation; publicschools
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To: HungarianGypsy; Kaslin
While the standard wine in use in the USA is generally a red table wine, any wine made from grapes is acceptable.

In large parts of the German Catholic world, whites are quite common.

But red is generally preferred worldwide, because of its physical resemblance to blood - reminding the faithful of what the wine actually becomes when it is consecrated.

41 posted on 09/16/2008 9:00:52 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: HungarianGypsy

At a Anglican church I used to attend (the one in question), they actually used Port. Others I’ve seen used Mogen David Kosher wine.


42 posted on 09/16/2008 9:01:00 AM PDT by mnehring (Maverick/Barracuda 2008)
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To: wideawake

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43 posted on 09/16/2008 9:34:21 AM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Sad to say, it is not uncommon for Mexican and Central American gangs to hijack Catholic imagery - in particular rosaries, pictures of Our Lady of Guadalupe, baroque-style crucifixes and crosses, etc - for gang symbolism. If this particular school district has a problem with gangs who use rosaries as gang symbols, I can hardly blame them for banning rosaries. It certainly sucks for the young lady, however.


44 posted on 09/16/2008 9:58:19 AM PDT by sassbox
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To: Kaslin
I found this. It's from a Gang Awareness handbook
http://www.sanantonio.gov/sapd/pdf/awareness.pdf (NOTE, its .pdf)
The use of colored rosary beads and other religious articles have also been noted. These are subtle indicators of gang membership and are often hard to notice if you are not looking for them. With the introduction of strict dress codes and the use of uniforms in the school systems these type of indicators seem to be favored by the gangsters.
Scum bags.
45 posted on 09/16/2008 9:58:58 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Maybe she joined the Jesus and Mary Chain gang.


46 posted on 09/16/2008 10:22:19 AM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"Well, maybe it shouldn’t be considered as jewelry, but..."

No, there are no maybes or buts about it: you don't wear a rosary!

And if you're wearing it, well, it could well be because you ARE using it as a gang symbol.

47 posted on 09/16/2008 10:46:04 AM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D. - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Redbob

See my posts 23 and 39 - you CAN wear a rosary! Sheesh...Irish Catholics and their cultural imperialism ;-)


48 posted on 09/16/2008 12:36:24 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: al_c
I disagree.

I think it's Father Zuhlsdorf of WDTPRS (or maybe it's Father Trigilio of EWTN) who says a Rosary on the mirror (I keep mine on the gearshift) is a good reminder to say his prayers . . . .

It isn't a fashion accessory, though, for sure. It's a sacramental!!!

49 posted on 09/16/2008 12:42:11 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: mnehrling
In our former ECUSA parish, jug port was the standard wine.

Technically that's not permissible, because port is adulterated (with brandy or grain alcohol) and thus not proper matter for consecration.

I don't think that is really one of the 2,242 reasons we left the Episcopal Church, but . . . .

50 posted on 09/16/2008 12:46:59 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Thanks for that.
We left the Episcopal church as well, parking in a non-denominational right now. I do miss communion every week versus the quarterly grape juice communion at the ND church- there was something about reaffirming your faith every week.


51 posted on 09/16/2008 12:51:57 PM PDT by mnehring (Maverick/Barracuda 2008)
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To: mnehrling

We were so High Church our noses bled . . . in fact we mentioned to the Deacon when we started attending a Catholic church that we ‘missed the consolation of the Sacrament’ . . . . which resulted in an appointment with the rector and an abbreviated OCIA course . . . . .


52 posted on 09/16/2008 1:01:09 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: Kaslin
Maybe things have changed.

http://www.tldm.org/tldmstore/PersonalProtectionPacket.htm

53 posted on 09/16/2008 1:13:02 PM PDT by pray4liberty (It's the smile that keeps me out of trouble.)
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To: pray4liberty
The "Bayside movement" and the alleged visions of Veronica Leuken have been condemned in no uncertain terms by the Bishop of Brooklyn as inauthentic and harmful.

Declaration Concerning the Bayside Movement.

54 posted on 09/16/2008 3:03:59 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
We were so High Church our noses bled . . . in fact we mentioned to the Deacon when we started attending a Catholic church that we ‘missed the consolation of the Sacrament’

I don't know why but that completely cracks me up.

As to wine, specified unadulterated grape wine, but something like a Tokay or other sweet wine was good because a sweet wine lasts longer once it's opened. Real Port, being fortified, ain't kosher.

Sipping a nice Cockburn as we speak ...

55 posted on 09/16/2008 6:24:32 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: mnehrling; AnAmericanMother
This may start something I don't want to start, but as a former PECUSA priest-type-indwiddle who swam the Tiber and clambered up the bank on the other side on 12/26/94, I'm here to tell you, "Aint' nuthin' like the real thing, baby."

This is not only affirming your faith, it's like being a beautiful woman walking down an alley in the wrong part of town late at night: Jesus gone sneak up on you and pop you one on the haid -- and your life will never be the same.

Batter my heart ...

56 posted on 09/16/2008 6:28:27 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg
I was being deliberately old-fashioned when I said it (being an absolute newbie I didn't want to sound too Episcopalian) and it certainly got a reaction. . . I must have sounded like a 75-year-old nun.

My husband got me a bottle of Cockburn '55 for my 40th birthday (in 1995). We had people lining up to beg a thimbleful . . . .

I've switched over to Taylor Fladgate for some reason.

"Once it's been opened, you know it won't keep,
Do have a bit, it will help you to sleep!
Oh, have some Madeira, my dear!
I have quite a small cask of it here . . . . "

57 posted on 09/16/2008 6:30:25 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: Mad Dawg
HAVE you heard the Christopher Wordsworth setting of "Batter My Heart"?

Actually, all four settings of the Sacred Sonnets are incredible. Modern, but incredible.

58 posted on 09/16/2008 6:31:49 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

I haven’t heard those. Full data please?

I once had a 100 year old Madeira and once one that one 120 years old! No kidding! They were awful but you could tell they once were great.

Flanders and Swan! Ou sont les funnymen d’antan? My mom was at Oxford with Flanders.


59 posted on 09/16/2008 6:57:42 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Tldm.org was the only place I could find a scapular, a miraculous medal and a rosary in one package.

The Church initially debunked Lourdes and Fatima, and St. Bernadette and the Fatima children suffered personal persecutions as a result.

Whether Mrs. Lueken's visions are authentic or not--and that's not for me to say--we have to look to the results generated: more Catholics are praying the Rosary and wearing their sacramentals. That's the last thing the Devil would want.

One thing is true: the Church has tolerated corruption for far too long, and now Pope Benedict has his hands full throwing the moneychangers out of the Lord's temple.

When I went to Catechism back in the 60's, some San Francisco bishop announced that teaching the Rosary was old fashioned and unnecessary. As a result we never learned how to pray it. I didn't learn how to pray the Rosary until I was an adult and found tldm.org.

60 posted on 09/16/2008 7:11:52 PM PDT by pray4liberty (It's the smile that keeps me out of trouble.)
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